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Old 01-18-2012, 12:54 AM   #1
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Hello all. I have a client who is dead set on putting a basement under 1/2 of their existing modular home. Their home is a 28' x 56', they plan to add a 28' x 28' addition to one corner of their home, making an L-shape, and also to add a basement under this addition and half of the house. The problem is that the home is attatched to a garage and can't be lifted or moved. The other problem is that this house is located in an area in western Nebraska called the sandhills. Imagine doing this on some sand dunes. that's the kind of soil composition I'm working with, which obviously makes the bracing more complicated. Is there anyone out there that can offer advice on how to attempt something like this? I'd gladly accept any and all input, advice, and opinions. Thanks in advance!

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Old 01-18-2012, 01:07 AM   #2
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First you have to build it with your mind, man.

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Is that some sort of Dune thing?


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Didn't you read the sign before you asked this question?
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Ummm....did I miss something about this forum? Maybe construction is slower in your areas but I really don't have time for lame jokes. Was looking for advice from people who maybe have experience with this situation, maybe I'm in the wrong place. I apologize if I am.
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Ummm....did I miss something about this forum? Maybe construction is slower in your areas but I really don't have time for lame jokes. Was looking for advice from people who maybe have experience with this situation, maybe I'm in the wrong place. I apologize if I am.
First off, go to introductuctions and tell us about yourself. Second, everyone who awnsered that is a seasoned contractor. Imo, build the addition and skip the basement.

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Hello all. I have a client who is dead set on putting a basement under 1/2 of their existing modular home. Their home is a 28' x 56', they plan to add a 28' x 28' addition to one corner of their home, making an L-shape, and also to add a basement under this addition and half of the house. The problem is that the home is attatched to a garage and can't be lifted or moved. The other problem is that this house is located in an area in western Nebraska called the sandhills. Imagine doing this on some sand dunes. that's the kind of soil composition I'm working with, which obviously makes the bracing more complicated. Is there anyone out there that can offer advice on how to attempt something like this? I'd gladly accept any and all input, advice, and opinions. Thanks in advance!

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Sounds like a piece of cake to me.It is not easy, but it is do-able
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I guess if you shore the crap out of it and drill deep peirs, that is all you can do. The way double wides shift and move, I wouldn't want the job.

Get an engineer, my friend.
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Thanks. Jawtrs I like your first response better I think, just do the addition and not the basement. I like a good challenge but this is a little beyond my comfort level and the risk seems to outweigh the reward. Aside from that, these people are not wealthy and it is clearly not the most cost effective way of adding sq. ft. to their home.
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Knucklehead, any advice? I have a good friend/subcontractor who is the best basement and concrete guy I've ever come across. He will only do the basement and floor though, won't mess with shoring up the house. and he wants to be able to do the walls all in one pour (icf's). Seems to me like this is going to make the job much more difficult. How would you go about this?
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First of all I have done some underpinning. However not in sandy soil. So my suggestion would be to get soil engineers and structural engineers involved with the project.

Coming here for such advice is futile. Makes me question if you should perform such work. But that is just me.

How is that for lame advice?
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Well that is definitely lame advice. You know I might be the most laid back, easy to get along with person you would ever meet, but I've never been able to get along with very many people in my profession for some reason. There's always a level of arrogance with contractors that just rubs me the wrong way. I always thought it was just a regional thing and that most contractors around here were pricks. A couple of these posts have made me think maybe it's just the nature of the business. Being an a-hole and having a bad sense of humor is just a pre-requisite for being a contractor. Have a nice life all, i'll leave you to your unicorns and tasty pink gumdrops and your Sean penn dissecting that was taking place on another thread I noticed. Clearly not a site for me.
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Really getting a soils and structural engineer is lame advice?

Maybe you should undermine the structure. Then. Doing such a project would require a lot of information to plan out path of execution. One that you will not get here for free off the interweb.

The only one that is arrogant here is you.

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What exactly is it you want to know? There is not near enough details in 1 rambling paragraph to even begin to give you step by step instructions. And I am not sure I like your attitude
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Actually I was thinking more Dude from Big Lebowski. But that works too.
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Thanks. Jawtrs I like your first response better I think, just do the addition and not the basement. I like a good challenge but this is a little beyond my comfort level and the risk seems to outweigh the reward. Aside from that, these people are not wealthy and it is clearly not the most cost effective way of adding sq. ft. to their home.
You've just named 3 of the best reason why you should have walked away long ago.

Hows this for lame advice. Stick to what you know. From your own admission that this is something above your comfort level, and the client is poor, it can only bring frustration to you and the client, and possibly land you in deep do do with losing money, local credibility, and possibly your company.

If you really want the job and you feel its not the most cost effective way of adding sq ft, then use your skill and experience as a builder to explain that to them and sell them on a project you can handle and will suit them better.
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Hanman- You are not qualified for the job that your asking about. if you were you wouldn't b asking. the members here cannot give you information that can potentially kill someone. And even if they could it is impossible based of the info you can give.
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Well that is definitely lame advice. You know I might be the most laid back, easy to get along with person you would ever meet, but I've never been able to get along with very many people in my profession for some reason. There's always a level of arrogance with contractors that just rubs me the wrong way. Clearly not a site for me.

Ah ok, sounds like you are intimidated by people that know what they are doing.
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Remember contractors are not engineers PE or other and not Architeches either. E like to play the role. It we can not stamp drawings and do not carry the insurance those folks have to. Can it be done. Yes. Should you do anything other then request pre con money for engineering and give them a ROM proposal for the job. That's what I would do

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