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Old 05-22-2015, 09:22 AM   #1
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My house sits on about 30 block pillers with 2x's running along them.

I am going to level it out, and that is not an issue.

The issue, or question is... what do I shim it with?

I am sure there will be small gaps and some large. Thought about PT ply, but can't get it real thin.

Any ideas would be great.

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I always use the large roofing shingles.

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We use steel shims. But are not near the water.

I would use galvo steel shims and then mortar them in.
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Or cut your own shims different sizes from pt using a circular saw
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If you can actually level it out, and the heights are that small, you can probably either rip some PT shims and coat it with the green copper stuff for added protection.

You can also get metal shims at your local truck shop (they are used to shim axles). Aluminum ones will resist rusting better. If only steel available, scuff it up, and use cold galvanizing spray.

you could also probably use cement, just depends on the height difference, you may want ones without stone aggregate.
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Thanks for the suggestions.

I'll look into some plates and fall back to cutting down PT wood if I have to.
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Might not work on pillars as well, but when levelling houses and replacing the sill, we'd wrap the underside of the new sill with either tyvek or membrane, reattach the sill, then fill the gap from levelling with non shrink grout.
If the gap was really small, we'd make a little form and pour it soupy, if it was big, we'd mix it dry and pack it in
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If your house is out of level within 3/4" of an inch (guess from your plywood comment) why not just floor level it and install new flooring?
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Well, if the floor started level, there's no reason to tear it out. leveling the house fixes many issues at the same time, and prevents further issues (such as buckling walls, crumbling plaster, windows not opening, kitchen floors out of level, etc.
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I've used UHMW sheets and cut shims out of them. Works very well and will outlast wood and metal.
(Note it is pretty slippery so you would generally be advised to secure it in place)
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Well, if the floor started level, there's no reason to tear it out. leveling the house fixes many issues at the same time, and prevents further issues (such as buckling walls, crumbling plaster, windows not opening, kitchen floors out of level, etc.


If you are trying to get a warped, over-spanned old floor back to level by jacking and shimming it you are going to spend tons of time and it still will be at different elevations over the span of the floor. On older stuff it never moves how you want it to.

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of situations where jacking and leveling are the way to go, and that is some of my favorite work. If what the OP described is really all within 3/4" I don't think they should jack and level.

You are going to have drywall cracking and door window movement issues either way you go. When you start jacking a house everything is going to move. Existing cracks open up, new wallboard cracks form. Windows and doors that have been shimmed/shaved or are working will now require attention.

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Well, if the floor started level, there's no reason to tear it out. leveling the house fixes many issues at the same time, and prevents further issues (such as buckling walls, crumbling plaster, windows not opening, kitchen floors out of level, etc.
Unless you're me, I jack twisted and pulled my house back together this past winter, now none of my doors close
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If my house was 3/4" out of level, I would not touch it. But alas it is more. Such as it is living in sand.

I am re-leveling my house before I start more reno work. Rather fix it now than later.
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My house sits on about 30 block pillers with 2x's running along them.

I am going to level it out, and that is not an issue.

The issue, or question is... what do I shim it with?

I am sure there will be small gaps and some large. Thought about PT ply, but can't get it real thin.

Any ideas would be great.

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Go to a new construction site. See if they have bundles of wood. And take the wood shims out of that. LOL!

Wood shims from Home Depot or Lowes should suffice.
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I use under course cedar shingles
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used to be able to buy cut metal shims at lumber yard by the pound .but have not seen them for years . recently i cut squares of sheet metal and stacked them . anything big enough gets nonshrink grout .
you could always grab some scraps from your local welding yard ,pieces 1/4" or whatever thick . not familiar with seeing rust under a house unless something is wrong . so steel should work fine.if putting on PT wood then put a membrane to seperate it from contact
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I have yet to do this. I checked the lumber companies, no metal shims.

I think I will split it up between PT boards for the larger gaps and cedar shingles for the smaller ones.

I have to cut the straps away too, and then re-strap them after I am done.

On another note, pulled down latices that my insurance required me to put up years ago, discovered 2 young Oak snakes in some under pinning. Wonder what else it up there?? Good times.

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