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Old 03-13-2009, 10:46 PM   #1
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All by myself I built scaffold 7 jacks high, tied them to the wall, stocked 80 brick on each level not to mention I had to tote all of the scaffolding a 100 yards to the place where I was to erect them. I started at 7 o'clock and was finished by lunch (12 o'clockish) I did all of this by myself before our skytrak arrived which was after lunch. My father has always said that a brick job is only as good as the fork lift operator. I think I'm faster, cheaper, and greener than a skytrack. Or have I not met the right skytrak operator.

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Old 03-13-2009, 11:13 PM   #2
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Wait until you have a surgeon cut into your back for the second time...then you'll learn patience is a great virtue
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I am concerned that soon we will be penalized for carbon footprints created on the job site. So in the not so distant future I believe that foremans may have to limit tractor use when possible in order to curb greenhouse gases . I'm not saying scrap the skytrak , I'm just suggesting that from my experience there are situations in which using a fork lift is not the most efficient approach.
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Depends on what kind of crew you're stocking for. If you've got one mason working on all of that scaffold, you'll be able to keep up, or the Skytrak will be sitting idle 90% of the time. Put a mason (or two) on each level of scaffold, and you'd be dead by noon trying to keep them stocked.
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Old 03-14-2009, 07:07 AM   #7
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I framed houses for years without a lift. I also framed for a few years with one. I made decent money both ways, but I destroyed my back and shoulders without one. A lift is priceless when it comes to moving bulk materials and saving the joints. Of course, I was in realy good shape when I didn't use a lift.
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Yup, I was thinking that in my 20's & 30's a task like that made me feel alive. In my 40's it made know I was alive. I won't do it in my 50's so I can be alive.

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Skytrak, lull, grove, terex, whatever the brand name cant sue you, cant show up half drunk, cant unionize, cant steal copper pipe, cant tell the homeowner to f**k off, does not need to be drug tested, wont complain about long hours.....

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I've seen crews overuse skytraks a lot of times. Just saw a crew last week running fascia on a one story ranch out of the lift basket.
I could of had it run before they got they're lift in position.
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I've seen crews overuse skytraks a lot of times. Just saw a crew last week running fascia on a one story ranch out of the lift basket.
I could of had it run before they got they're lift in position.
Yeah, I have a buddy like that.

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Expensive, runs out of diesel and over equipment, tires goes flat, hydraulic lines blow, won't start, always beepin, black tread marks on finished concrete and ruts on the landscaping and is a thief's favorite partner in crime.
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Expensive, runs out of diesel and over equipment, tires goes flat, hydraulic lines blow, won't start, always beepin, black tread marks on finished concrete and ruts on the landscaping and is a thief's favorite partner in crime.
Expensive- No. Legal, on the books american workers (60,000 yr each * 2)
On the books all salary taxes, insurance (workmans comp + health)= $120000
Good used lift 45,000. Winner jobsite lift.

Runs out of diesel- If you need a response to this you do not even belong owning a lawn mower. Winner jobsite lift.

Runs over equip. - If you need an answer to this you do not belong behind the wheel. Winner jobsite lift.

Tires goes flat, hydraulic lines blow, won't start- Nice try. But if you dont expect this you shouldnt own a machine. Lets say 12 breakdowns a year, at an average of $1,000 per breakdown. ( High rate of failure, high cost of repair, Buy a good machine this is not the case.)
12 failures * 1000 dollars = $12000 per year. $45000 + $12000 = $57000.
(Inital cost + upkeep.) $57,000 < 2 workers per year $120000.
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Always beepin- Its a construction site not church. That beepin is for safety though. You are familiar with OSHA regulations right?? You should be, assuming that you set up scaffolding. Winner Jobsite lift.

Black tread marks on finished concrete- Manage your site and learn to operate. Winner Jobsite Lift.

Ruts on the landscaping- Manage your site and learn to operate. Winner Jobsite Lift.

Thief's favorite partner in crime- Please give an example. How many super sacks of spec-mix have gone missing at your site?? How many skids of bricks or pavers have the crackheads loaded on their flatbeds and hauled off? Up in the air.
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I guess I'm down for the count. At least I didn't get K.O.'d by a wheel barrel or a hundred packer. Thanks for the lively welcome. I think I'm gonna like it here.
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I guess I'm down for the count. At least I didn't get K.O.'d by a wheel barrel or a hundred packer. Thanks for the lively welcome. I think I'm gonna like it here.
Oh yeah, you're gonna like it, just don't drop the soap around here.
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What is a hundred packer?
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A dolly designed to haul a band brick ( approx.100 brick or 1/5 of a cube).
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Think of a hand truck with an extruded metal mesh frame welded to the uprights so bricks won't fall through when you tilt it back. About $100.
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I Have one and would not get ride of it.It has saved a lot of time on all my jobs. I did a job for another contractor last month. He was in the local lumber yard buying 65 sheets of 5/8 advetech and was going to have his
guys carry it up 3 stories. My sales man said to him I had a lift that could do it. This guy bet me a $100.00 that I couldin't put it in a window. And do it faster than his 4 man crew carying it. Well he lost I made out great.
And by the way I just orderd a new Bob Cat lift.

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