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Old 05-29-2015, 03:43 PM   #1
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Curved Wood Beam Connection To I-beam


Hello,

I need some sort of tie (or strong tie) or something else to connect an I-beam that sits horizontal on top of a wall to a curved wood beam that is going to provide the framing for the ceiling or roof. I might leave the curved beam exposed as part of the ceiling, haven't decided yet.Any suggestions?

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Old 05-29-2015, 04:23 PM   #2
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The curve of the beam will expose the bolt, which we are trying to avoid. We would like some type of cap or tie in to go in between the I-beam and curved beam to hold the two together.
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Maybe something along these lines..... instead of attaching to a post attach to the I beam.
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something more along the lines on what is in this picture, but accounting for the fact that it will be sitting on a metal I-beam
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Have the brackets welded onto the I beam. We have unusual brackets fabricated and welded on all the time. You could also drill holes and bolt them on.
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well, a picture is worth a thousand , words..
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well, a picture is worth a thousand , words..
That last picture was not even worth a thousand turds.

I have no idea what Phil the OP is talking about or describing to us.

Sketch it out or something so we understand.

We will probably end up suggesting you go to an engineer and have it spec'ed and drawn for you.

That is what I would have done before asking us lame-brains on this forum.

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That last picture was not even worth a thousand turds.

I have no idea what Phil the OP is talking about or describing to us.

Sketch it out or something so we understand.

We will probably end up suggesting you go to an engineer and have it spec'ed and drawn for you.

That is what I would have done before asking us lame-brains on this forum.

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Unless this building will be on the moon or some other low-gravity place (for example Green Bay), I would expect to need an engineer's stamp, and would go right there.
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In the last picture pretend that the beam the curved wood is sitting on is an I-beam.

Here is an artistic photo. I need something to attach the I-beam to the curved beam
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Have the brackets welded onto the I beam. We have unusual brackets fabricated and welded on all the time. You could also drill holes and bolt them on.
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In the last picture pretend that the beam the curved wood is sitting on is an I-beam.

Here is an artistic photo. I need something to attach the I-beam to the curved beam
All right, I'm curious. What is the span of that roof? A 7 1/2" deep arch member isn't that deep. What will be preventing the walls from spreading? or that steel beam from tipping over?
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If it is critical that the fastener be close to invisible, then that requires the bolt to be vertical thru the GLB, with the GLB landing in some saddle or the such. A archy, engineer or detailer could supply the detail
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My drawing is terrible, the 7.5'' is supposed to be the width of the curved beam, not the height.
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Does this application have an engineer?
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Next drawing. The part in black is what I need. It will be bolted onto a 5.5 inch wide I-beam and be bolted into both sides of the curved wood beam. What's this piece called? Some sort of bracket?
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Phil, I don't believe you're a contractor.
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I work for a contracting company on the financial side of things. I am rarely involved in the actual work, but was assigned the task of finding us a bracket of some sort to put all this together
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Phil, I don't believe you're a contractor.
It's obvious that he's a draftsman
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I think you're going to need some brackets welded up. Shouldn't be too hard or pricey. How tall is the curved beam? Basically three pieces of metal to create a saddle. The bottom should be longer than the width of the beam by enough so you can drill and bolt it to the I beam. Or just weld it to it

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