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Old 04-11-2013, 06:52 AM   #121
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ifyou wan ignore me i trying mybest rihgt now i aprrciat thos who ar tolrant of my problem
Na..I'm usually the ignoree not the ignorer ...
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:21 AM   #122
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Well, we haven't heard from elbud433 since Tuesday, so hopefully he worked it out...
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This better not be the end of this story. It would be like canceling a show without an ending......

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are you ablle to by remain materil to finish

mabe you need tosee bankr or sel somthin got any toys boats motrcycl xtra truck

yu need to finish maybe not evrythin custom want jus finish an get cussomr to sin off


or else you need tomov away in middl of night go to anothr stat
WOW! All i can say is Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WOW! All i can say is Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leave him alone. You don't know his story.
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What is the story?
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He suffered a brain injury (motorcycle crash I think) and has trouble with speech and other forms of communication. His therapist has discouraged him from using spell check, preferring that he just try to type everything out without the help.
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He suffered a brain injury (motorcycle crash I think) and has trouble with speech and other forms of communication. His therapist has discouraged him from using spell check, preferring that he just try to type everything out without the help.
Also is engaged to a client of the uncle he works for (met her when he was working on her house) has a very nice settlement comming his way. He's 21 (i think) and a senior in high school. Good with numbers but not letters
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And he's kinda snarky too
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Wow- that's cool he comes on here. It's kind of fun to decode his posts
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He suffered a brain injury (motorcycle crash I think) and has trouble with speech and other forms of communication. His therapist has discouraged him from using spell check, preferring that he just try to type everything out without the help.
My Bad. I thought something was up as i read deeper into the thread. Figures first time i flip someone sh** on this forum. Sorry Mavis
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My Bad. I thought something was up as i read deeper into the thread. Figures first time i flip someone sh** on this forum. Sorry Mavis
Stick around. I almost said something the first time I read one of his posts. Then I found out about his accident and rehab and such. His uncle uses his account sometimes. You'll know when.
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And he's kinda snarky too

He's just saying what nobody else will. It's funny. I just wouldn't want to be in the shoes of the OP
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I think you should tell her not to worry about any more money. And that you would go and get a loan from somewhere and put up your own assets as collateral. And that you will work nightshift somewhere to help pay for her car payments to help her out of her financial burdens. Well better yet you will hire your competitor to finish the work while you sell your tools on Craig's list to pay him.

SHE IS PLAYING YOU LIKE A FIDDLE!!!!!!

I understand that you have a passion to swing a hammer and build things and your happiness comes from people that are happy with your work. But why are you giving water to the weeds and spraying weed killer on the flowers? Its time to stop giving her more water!!! Get thru this and focus on your other customers that bloom with joy when you do what you do for them.

Now lawyers cost money that you don't have (but don't be afraid of that path if you must go that way) and I have a feeling she is use to getting her way when she steps on good people. And it pains you to try to push people around.

Here is what I would do/say.......... well ma'am we are both in a bind financially and I always want to finish what I start and I will finish your home. However after improving your homes value out of my own pocket I have used all the money I have and since some of the scope of work that we had originally agreed to has cost more due to some of your decisions to upgrade to or want things that are more labor intensive then the original estimate we started out with and I don't want to begrudge you nice things. So I will finish your house as soon as I can. And in order to help out with financial bind that I'm in until you can get caught up on what you owe me I will have to take other jobs on other homes........ say three days a week perhaps even four days per week depending on those tasks. So I WILL WORK ON YOUR HOME EVERY WEEK probably two days a week sometimes one day a week but I will be there. And I would understand if you would like to get some quotes from other contractors to work on the your home on the three days a week that I won't be able to that would be ok. Just let me know who it is so we can work out who's warranty would cover what. And I don't want to get you in trouble with your bank so if you could find out how a lien on the property would effect your loan before or after the project is completed and how would it effect payments to the other contractor you may get to work on the house when I'm not there. Oh and if you need me to explain things to the other contractor just give me his/her phone number and I can explain the technical stuff (like how you don't have any money to square up with me for all my hard work)anyways I hope we can all get thru this soon so for the next couple days I will be out working on other projects and I'll see you on Wednesday!

I am not kidding you about the previous paragraph. And I am betting that you are a nice guy and are not confrontationally guy this the pickle you are in.......and she is confronting........ thus the pickle you are in..........so either type the previous paragraph out on paper or in an email and once she gets it........FOR CRYING OUT LOUD DON'T ANSWER YOUR PHONE/VOICEMAIL/EMAIL FOR THREE YES THREE DAYS.........A control freak like her will panic and only after three days she will figure out that no one else will do the work for free or almost free..........her banker will say it would not help her to have a lien against her and would be a nightmare for her deal with and that the easiest way to get out of the pickle she is in is to square up with you. And she will need the banker to tell her fix it with you and other contractors tell her that it would cost double or triple to do what you are doing. And if she calls a lawyer he is pretty limited with what he can do since your not walking away from the work. and he would talk about how she has improved property that has increased in value and that you can lien her property and that it would take as much or more money to fight it then to just pay you.

Turn the tables on her........right now you are the one stressed about it........let her read your note and stress about how she is going to square up with you and save face.........but let her throw a tantrum not get her way throw a bigger tantrum and again not get her way. Then sweat it. Then sweat it more than let her worry and stress how she will make this right with you.

Trust me on this because I use to be you and still am. I figured this out about women like this because of being in your shoes. And I have learned that in dealing with those type of customers I stopped doing what I use to do by letting them walk on me..........I stopped watering the weeds in the garden and gave that water to the flowers. It will surprise you how humble the weeds become without your attention.



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This appears to be a classic case of the cheap homeowner with expensive taste, versus the unprepared, inexperienced, over his head, dollars in his eyes, fly by night contractor. We all know how this ends.

I am surprised at all the love and support that is being shown here. We are only hearing one side of the story.


somthoutghful iput aswel we only hear on oneside
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Also is engaged to a client of the uncle he works for (met her when he was working on her house) has a very nice settlement comming his way. He's 21 (i think) and a senior in high school. Good with numbers but not letters


i gots th mony sittinon 700k plus not gon wase iton usels colleg
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at ths poin i be think he need toget any tools out off of her propety don not answr her call an wate to here frm her lwyer sh may nevr get lawer if sh realy broke she probly jus not brok tryin totake advanage he certialy mess up early on

he then nedd tomove on t payin wrk maybe becom emplyee wrk someon els or mayb sit a home no wrk but no losing mony


go brok sittin on couch less stresful
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I just read all seven pages. What an interesting reed that was. So many things I want to know more about. It was like the first chapter of a book you can't put down.

What is this project? I can't see how you can have a foundation put in (addition) plumbing fixtures (bathroom) customer move out (Remodeling the main house as well as addition) and be any where near 80k.

Why was the customer moved out before the addition portion was framed and weather proof so you could run all aspects of the inside portion of the project together? If I where running a job like that I would see no reason for the customer to move out until I had already completed three or four weeks of work and collected at least two payments from the customer.



Why ask for a initial payment? There are two reasons that I know of.

To get the money in your hands to cover the cost tell the next agreed on payment milestone.

To screen customers. This is the biggie. If they are hard to work with before you have started that is a great time to find out.


How is this project coming out so terrible? 10% over is not the kind of overage that puts some one in that kind of a spot. Was the job bid so poorly that 110% of the job didn't cover all of the costs of the project (meaning if the customer just bout the material and paid the subs and labor it would have cost her more then if you where involved)?

I could ask questions all day but I wont. I may have gotten in on this to late. The op may not even be with us anymore.
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Mavis Leonard;1748525]at ths poin i be think he need toget any tools out off of her propety don not answr her call an wate to here frm her lwyer sh may nevr get lawer if sh realy broke she probly jus not brok tryin totake advanage he certialy mess up early on

he then nedd tomove on t payin wrk maybe becom emplyee wrk someon els or mayb sit a home no wrk but no losing mony

[QUOTE=go brok sittin on couch less stresful[/QUOTE]

Great point if I'm going to lose money hell might as well sit on the couch and watch Jerry springer

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