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Old 01-23-2017, 10:42 PM   #1
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Any Advice For Installing Suspended Ceilings Faster?


I am familiar with suspended ceilings. I have installed many. We do a lot in basements and so forth. However I have a commercial job coming up that is 3,000 Sq ft of drop ceiling. We are removing old grids and panels and installing all new. Being that this is 6x larger than any drop ceiling I've done I'm looking for any tips and tricks to speed things up.

I have a stabilator 360 laser that I set up my perimeter line with and I also use it to mark where to bend my drop wires. The laser I know is a huge time saver.

These will all be beveled 2x2 panels that will need back cut along the perimeter which from my experience tends to be one of the most time consuming tasks. I have one person cut and install the panels and then one of us comes behind with a utility knife and marks and back cuts the panel.

Do the make anything better at this task than a utility knife? It is very easy to booger an end and then the tile is trash.

Thoughts? I don't do drop ceilings every week or even every month so I'm hoping there are some tricks or tools I'm unaware of.


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Old 01-24-2017, 08:16 AM   #2
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Re: Any Advice For Installing Suspended Ceilings Faster?


I've known about this tool for some time, but never quite got around to picking one up. Let us know how it works for you.



https://www.amazon.com/TOOLPRO-05110.../dp/B000A1BDAU

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I can verify that tool is well worth the little it cost.
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A 3000 square foot commercial cieling is a different beast than a 500 square foot basement. Depending on your siesmic area you'll need to know if:
1) Are Berc clips required on the perimeter?
2) What are the requirements for bracing and siesmic pods?
3) Who will install the light wires? Will this be an extra to you?
4) Who will install the sparkies wires to pickup their EMT or MC?
5) Who will install support wires for the HVAC diffusers and returns?
6) Will you require a seperation joint?
7) What size wall molding is required? 2" or 3/4"?
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A 3000 square foot commercial cieling is a different beast than a 500 square foot basement. Depending on your siesmic area you'll need to know if:
1) Are Berc clips required on the perimeter?
2) What are the requirements for bracing and siesmic pods?
3) Who will install the light wires? Will this be an extra to you?
4) Who will install the sparkies wires to pickup their EMT or MC?
5) Who will install support wires for the HVAC diffusers and returns?
6) Will you require a seperation joint?
7) What size wall molding is required? 2" or 3/4"?


Well the nice thing is that the largest area isn't probably more than 400-500 Sq ft. Mostly offices and hallways. Sparky is coming behind me to swap out all the lights so I don't have to deal with electrical.

The scope of work is right in line with what we have done just on a smaller scale.


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I've known about this tool for some time, but never quite got around to picking one up. Let us know how it works for you.



https://www.amazon.com/TOOLPRO-05110.../dp/B000A1BDAU


I will definitely be picking up one of these tomorrow


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The size of the room doesn't neccesarily equal the size of the grid ceiling. I've done tens of acres of grid height offices, where the wall is actually attached to the grid ceiling. So never assume unless the plans, SOW or your own eyes tell you that the wall are taller than grid height.

Also make sure that a fire rated grid ceiling isn't required.
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Hire someone else, mark up their bid and collect the check.

But seriously, the tool Tins posted is pretty slick.
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The tool is a big time saver. There are a couple different models. I have the one above and I have a wooden one. Either are fine.

The laser is your best time saver. I also use mine to mark my wires. This saves a bunch of time in determining ceiling height. I use it to set the perimeter, then I determine the bend in my wire and set the laser up to that height. As long as you make sure you pull any slack out of the wire, when you make the bend on the laser, you will be good.

When I say slack, sometimes there is a slight curve in the wire, when it is tied off above. I've caught some guys just grabbing the wire with the pliers and making the bend. I want them to pull the wire down, then make the bend in the wire. Takes out any slack.

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