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Old 06-04-2015, 03:49 PM   #1
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What Is Andersen Doing To The Market??


I've sold these windows for 30 yrs and been thru all the changes in product and distribution. The list price for a TW series ( middle of the road clad/kinda tilt, doublehung) in a bedroom window size is now $587.00 with low-e glazing and a half screen. This is simply too much money for the window. First level dealers get 25/10 off. This still makes it a $370.00 window. Imagine the cost you have to charge on a replacement project with full frame replacement and interior/exterior trims and painting. Tell me I'm crazy (please). Are Pella and Marvin's pricing similar?
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Old 06-04-2015, 04:35 PM   #2
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Andersen is fully aware of what the market will bare with their pricing. I never worry at all about what my windows cost. They cost what they cost. I sell the homeowner on the quality of my product and my workmanship, take my normal mark ups and they either pay it or they don't.

I would be dead in the water if I "pre judged" the price on the products I buy and try to sell them based on the fact that I may need to ask for more money for a product I believe in, but don't feel it's "worth" what ever it costs. If that's the case, I would change products if I thought they weren't worth that.

Just my $0.02.... YMMV

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That's a pretty solid answer. I struggle as I was paying about $270.00 a year ago. This years price increase was huge. The breakdown looks something like this.
Unit.........................370.00
Ext trim.....................45.00
int trim......................28.00
paint/stain.................30.00

(less cost to match)
Disposal.....................12.00
matls ----------
$485.00

2 hrs lead @ 40.........................80.00
1 hr helper @ ...........................26.00
1 1/2 hr paint @ 31.00 ..............46.50
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152.50

Subtotal labor/matls 637.00
profit 427.12
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Subtotal 1064.12
Tx (materials) 32.93
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Total 1096.93 (ea)

Well theres your $1100.00 window.
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It's not un-common at all for a wood window product to sell for $1100 - $1500 per opening around here.
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I'm getting inquiries about custom building windows. I've agreed to do one on T&M, and I doubt it's going to break $1K.

People are pushing cheap vinyl replacements all over the place around here.
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I'm getting inquiries about custom building windows. I've agreed to do one on T&M, and I doubt it's going to break $1K.

People are pushing cheap vinyl replacements all over the place around here.
If I make the jamb, with pockets for sash weight pulleys, plow and bore the sashes, make the sashes, glaze them and paint or finish them, it will blow right past that price point.

I even have all the machinery to do it. One window will always be more per unit then once you get over 5 units from me.
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If I make the jamb, with pockets for sash weight pulleys, plow and bore the sashes, make the sashes, glaze them and paint or finish them, it will blow right past that price point.

I even have all the machinery to do it. One window will always be more per unit then once you get over 5 units from me.
No kidding, doing the 1800s style double hungs correctly gets pricey in a hurry. I'll rebuild one that needs it, but it's a lot of cost to duplicate the profiles.
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Been using Andersen for years. Top of the line product for a fair price. Far less than what I would build them for. Have yet to find any quality building material that the price don't increase. Thats with the exception of some of Cheapos or Blowes crap.

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