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Old 09-12-2011, 08:57 PM   #1
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Is Glass Code In Garage Door Between House And Garage?


I had someone mention this today, and I hadn't heard it before. Can I have a steel door with a window in it, between the house and garage? This is your typical steel door you get from home depot. I could see why it might not be, as a window breaks out quickly in a fire.
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Door, Frame & Glass will all have to be fire rated.

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And a spring hinge or other type of closer.
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And a spring hinge or other type of closer.
It would be handy to have you guys when bidding a job or on bid day...nothing would slip by...
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And a spring hinge or other type of closer.
I don't think self closer is code for fire doors with the latest IRC

Apparently too many people prop them open when bringing groceries in...
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R.309.1 Opening Protection. Openings from a private garage directly into a room used for sleeping purposes shall not be permitted. Other openings between the garage and residence shall be equipped with solid wood doors not less than 1 3/8-inches (35 mm) in thickness, solid or honeycomb core steel doors not less than 1 3/8-inches (35mm) thick, or 20-minute fire-rated doors.
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Glass has to have wire in it and size is limited I believe depending on rating.
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You would need to use a steel retaining frame as the plastic home depot style would melt out long before the wire glass fell apart and the glass would be to small to worry about, maybe 5 x 18
Unless possibly you went to a very expensive specialty glazing, gel filled fire rated, smoke seal, I don't know about self closing for sure after the last post... I thought that was required

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Glass has to have wire in it and size is limited I believe depending on rating.
Maybe a jurisdictional thing...

Heard from a supplier,today, that wire is not an option.
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Griz, I think you are right, couple years ago Oregon was all over banning wire glass from use in schools, due to kids getting cut up from it. There are some very expensive fire rated systems out there, I am sure it could be done. But at what cost ? Most certainly not $219.00 home depot
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I am leaning on the " or 20 minute fire rated door " clause . It can be
done, but you are gonna have to want to see that car of yours real bad too spend that kind of money.
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Just put it in later. I am a rule breaker because I have put them in before, I figured the paneling in the garage would go way before the door.
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Just put it in later. I am a rule breaker because I have put them in before, I figured the paneling in the garage would go way before the door.
Not out here...

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It was a R&R and it had glass already. I told them, they didn't care, I put it in.

There has to be at least 2 dozen I have seen that way, if not more.
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It was a R&R and it had glass already. I told them, they didn't care, I put it in.

There has to be at least 2 dozen I have seen that way, if not more.
Read my previous post...
I would not do that out here.
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It was a R&R and it had glass already. I told them, they didn't care, I put it in.

There has to be at least 2 dozen I have seen that way, if not more.

I sell about 6-10 fire doors a month on average to frantic H/O's who are trying to close escrow or whatever & can't because somebody previously scabbed in a HC flush door from a box store.

On the flip side...I have a high end builder that does a lot of contemporary homes who almost always re-hangs a 1 lite white lami door after final.
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Well since your talking about whether is done despite the code after the inspection .

I have a very nice 1/2 lite with internal blinds where the 20 minute door was when the inspector came and vice versa.

I think its going to give me a chance to get out if I can see the fire before it gets too big .

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