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Old 05-17-2012, 06:26 PM   #1
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Does anyone have any experience with this system?

We used it today for the first time one 1 Window, not too sure if we are impressed with it yet. It does require shimming and causes somewhat large gaps because of the shimming.

Some areas still are wobbibly.... i'll probably end up have to put a face nail and touch up in a few spots to keep it in place.

House has replacements windows on some areas and new construction on others.


Any opinions on the system?
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:27 PM   #2
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once you caulk the hell out of her she'l stay

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I can deal with the Hardi siding, but I hate the Hardi trim with a vengeance!
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I like to carefully layout hand drives and pre-drill. Looks more "crafted?".
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Love the hidden fastener system. Are you using one on each end and one ever 16" or so on the sides of the trim boards? When you say large gaps, where do you mean? We usually have to shim to get the gaps to go away, and to get the boards even.
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i kinda like hardie trim,it's heavy and will crack in two if you look at it wrong but once it's installed it looks nice-ok
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Love the hidden fastener system. Are you using one on each end and one ever 16" or so on the sides of the trim boards? When you say large gaps, where do you mean? We usually have to shim to get the gaps to go away, and to get the boards even.
correct, that system.
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Hey guys, glad someone mentioned Hardie Trim as the development I recently moved into has it installed on the building. My girlfriend bought this townhouse in their first phase.

Among a lot of issues I see (I already brought up a few to inspectors before they gave occupancy), the one I think I will mention is that the Hardie trim was installed on top of the Hardie siding. This is in direct conflict with the manufacturer's installation guidelines.

I tried emailing a local rep but have received no response. Anyone talk to any reps about being allowed to install it contrary to installation's instructions?
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i was always told that its common out west to instal trim over siding
not saying its smart buts what they do
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Update :


Shimming & Caulk Does wonders... The trim is actually very stable when caulked and shimmed.


However, It looks like i'll be running out of these concealed fasteners and they must be ordered through my rep.

Do you think i could just make them?
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very easy to make and i have before.
but i am told that it must be a JH product used if yo ever need warranty..
i dont see it being a issue
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Guardian ,

What kind of metal did you use ? Size & gauge ?
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aluminum.
same gage as what the JH ones are
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When you say "they", you must be referring to the 75% of hacks that live out here. Some of us know how to do it right.
lol when you say "us" dont lump me into your boat before you show your work
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and my point was your drilling and painting when we are talking about avoiding any exposed nails...
hence you are soooo 1990s duhhh
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nope was doing that already in the 80s.
some of us are one step ahead

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