Best Replacement Window - Page 3 - Windows, Siding and Doors - Contractor Talk

Best Replacement Window

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12-27-2013, 08:16 PM   #41
#MAGA
 
EricBrancard's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder/Renovator
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 6,262

Re: Best Replacement Window


Quote:
Originally Posted by fjn View Post
Pella has literally been resting on their laurels for close to sixty years! That far back in time they made a good window. Now the top sellers spend more on advertising then some of the best companies gross for the year. It has gotten to the point where they have pumped the consumers so full of it they actually believe it. Window adds got like other products......when you want a cola you say give me a ?? when you sneeze you ask for a ???

There will be a preponderance of "replacement" windows as long as consumers buy into the smoke and mirrors put forth by run of the mill window manufactures. It is pure folly to believe that there are no maintenance windows IE. vinyl or aluminum clad.They just hide the rot until the window the whole window falls apart.


There is an old saying,buy cheap you buy twice,in the world of windows it will be many more times than twice. In short order the "replacement" windows will need replacing.


If you truly want a good window forget all the brands that pump the contractors and consumers full of it.


You will pay big bucks for top-notch windows buy in the long run you will be miles ahead.

IMHO if you want good windows look at Zeluck, Heartwood,or Parrot.
How many times the cost is one of these brand windows compared to a typical window?
EricBrancard is offline  

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ContractorTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

   

Advertisement

 

Old 12-27-2013, 08:40 PM   #42
Member
 
Localday's Avatar
 
Trade: General contractor
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Illinois
Posts: 68
Rewards Points: 75

Re: Best Replacement Window


I've been having luck with tempco windows, my supplier has been trying to get me to try these alliance windows, I bid a few but haven't herd back on em yet
Localday is offline  
Old 12-27-2013, 08:43 PM   #43
Pro
 
fjn's Avatar
 
Trade: mason
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,700
Rewards Points: 9,662

Re: Best Replacement Window


Quote:
Originally Posted by EricBrancard View Post
How many times the cost is one of these brand windows compared to a typical window?



At least 2.5--3 times more however,it is like a paint job,it costs as much in labor to paint on cheap paint as a good one. With the windows,how much does it cost to keep replacing windows every 12,20,or if the owner is lucky 35 yrs.in the course of the buildings life cycle ? Not to mention the disruption both on the exterior and interior of the home while one is "trying" to live in it.

With the non permanent window not only do you have the cost to buy the replacement,you also have the continuous labor charges to contend with. In the long run the high quality window will pay for itself many times over.
fjn is offline  
   
 
Old 12-27-2013, 08:52 PM   #44
#MAGA
 
EricBrancard's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder/Renovator
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 6,262

Re: Best Replacement Window


Quote:
Originally Posted by fjn View Post
At least 2.5--3 times more however,it is like a paint job,it costs as much in labor to paint on cheap paint as a good one. With the windows,how much does it cost to keep replacing windows every 12,20,or if the owner is lucky 35 yrs.in the course of the buildings life cycle ? Not to mention the disruption both on the exterior and interior of the home while one is "trying" to live in it.

With the non permanent window not only do you have the cost to buy the replacement,you also have the continuous labor charges to contend with. In the long run the high quality window will pay for itself many times over.
Depends on the market and the customer. The average person will probably not live in the home for 35 years. Even if they are, it's pretty hard to convince someone to spend that much more on windows. We could be talking going from $10k to $30k? That's not a small up charge.

I hear what you are saying, but I think you know as well as I do what the market supports in most cases.
EricBrancard is offline  
Old 12-27-2013, 08:53 PM   #45
Pro
 
fjn's Avatar
 
Trade: mason
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,700
Rewards Points: 9,662

Re: Best Replacement Window


Quote:
Originally Posted by EricBrancard View Post
How many times the cost is one of these brand windows compared to a typical window?




Still a very respectable quality window at a lower price point than those previously mentioned would be these. http://www.bergersonwindow.com/products/
fjn is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to fjn For This Useful Post:
EricBrancard (12-27-2013)
Old 12-28-2013, 05:22 PM   #46
Pro
 
fjn's Avatar
 
Trade: mason
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,700
Rewards Points: 9,662

Re: Best Replacement Window


Possibly the best service we can render a client regarding their choices / decisions with window selection is to steer them as far as possible from choosing casement windows. Every "name" brand without exception, of casements is prone to sash fatigue,some sooner,some later,it is a matter of when not if.


When sash fatigue occurs,the only remedy is to replace the window.The three durable not disposable brands I mentioned are well aware of the nuances of sash fatigue;designing,building and warrantying their windows against that common short coming is something they build into their products.

If a consumer is unfortunate enough to choose a casement by one of the disposable manufactures they have set themselves up for a constant and continuous cycle of window replacement. Only exception.....if they never or rarely open their windows.
fjn is offline  
Old 12-28-2013, 05:31 PM   #47
#MAGA
 
EricBrancard's Avatar
 
Trade: Builder/Renovator
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 6,262

Re: Best Replacement Window


Quote:
Originally Posted by fjn View Post
Only exception.....if they never or rarely open their windows.
Put me in that category. The only casement windows in my new house are in front of the kitchen sink. The rest are DH. If any of them get opened more than once a year I will be surprised. Panasonic fans in the bathrooms and an HRV for air quality.
EricBrancard is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to EricBrancard For This Useful Post:
fjn (12-28-2013)
Old 06-18-2014, 08:26 AM   #48
Pro
 
TLHWindows's Avatar
 
Trade: Windows Doors Siding Hurricane Shutters
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 477
Rewards Points: 734

Re: Best Replacement Window


Quote:
Originally Posted by robertrc View Post
If you are starting a replacement window showroom, I recommend -http://www.windowchoice.ca/window-tips/why-vinyl-windows-are-simply-better- go with vinyl replacement windows[/URL] not wooden or aluminium. Wooden windows are way behind in durability, maintenance and energy efficiency while aluminium windows can be durable, it can hurt energy efficiency and also both wooden and aluminium windows are expensive compared to vinyl windows. They are more durable, less expensive, less maintenance and better energy efficient. It’s popularity is increasing day by day. There are several companies producing vinyl windows. Having a little research in the market will help.

BOOOO SPAMMER
__________________
Cool, lets put some fabric over a window and let a hurricane throw some stuff at it. I'm sure it will protect you and your windows.

http://www.gulfbreezewindows.com
TLHWindows is offline  
Old 06-18-2014, 12:10 PM   #49
The Sheriff

 
Jaws's Avatar
 
Trade: GC
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 21,825
Rewards Points: 24

Re: Best Replacement Window


Marvin, Marvin E series (formerly Eagle) and Marvin Integrity primarily.
__________________
"The sound of the saftey clicking off is the only warning your gonna get......., so cover your ears" Northeast Wyoming 2016

John
Jaws is offline  
Old 06-18-2014, 01:38 PM   #50
Pro
 
fourcornerhome's Avatar
 
Trade: home improvement contractor
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Aurora Ohio
Posts: 928
Rewards Points: 1,194

Re: Best Replacement Window


Has anyone tried the new Pella 250 series vinyl replacement?
I Had priced out a 30 x 53 1/2 double hung at $208.15, but didn't make the sale.
fourcornerhome is offline  
Old 06-18-2014, 04:07 PM   #51
Pro
 
IHI's Avatar
 
Trade: General construction and remodeling
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Waterloo, IA.
Posts: 2,408
Rewards Points: 1,040

Re: Best Replacement Window


Quote:
Originally Posted by fourcornerhome View Post
Has anyone tried the new Pella 250 series vinyl replacement?
I Had priced out a 30 x 53 1/2 double hung at $208.15, but didn't make the sale.
Just installed 11 of them and the homeowner looked at the 250 and 350 series. They good, not the best window out there, but definitely not the worst either...good value for most homies. I had them ordered with built in j channel to ease my pain when siding the place and overall I'd recommend them as a budget conscious window.
IHI is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to IHI For This Useful Post:
fourcornerhome (06-18-2014)
Old 06-18-2014, 05:01 PM   #52
Pro
 
jb4211's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor ~ Property Maintenance
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
Posts: 5,855
Rewards Points: 2,306

Re: Best Replacement Window


I've been buying mine from Northeast Building Supply. They make the Windows there. There about $190 for 105 UIs. Nice window, very heavy, lifetime warranty. I like them.

I hate the 2week lead time.
__________________
Jon
jb4211 is offline  
Old 06-18-2014, 05:43 PM   #53
Pro
 
Oberon's Avatar
 
Trade: Glass and windows
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: East of the Mississippi
Posts: 103
Rewards Points: 93

Re: Best Replacement Window


Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaws View Post
Marvin, Marvin E series (formerly Eagle) and Marvin Integrity primarily.
Not to disagree, but E series is actually Andersen rather than Marvin.
Oberon is offline  
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Oberon For This Useful Post:
HomeSealed (06-20-2014), Jaws (06-19-2014), overanalyze (06-18-2014), Tom Struble (06-18-2014)
Old 06-18-2014, 08:28 PM   #54
Pro
 
Tom Struble's Avatar
 
Trade: siding
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: west milford n.j.
Posts: 17,271
Rewards Points: 20

Re: Best Replacement Window


you want to know about windows that man ^^^knows about windows
__________________
Tom
Tom Struble is offline  
Old 06-18-2014, 08:35 PM   #55
Pro
 
Patrick's Avatar
 
Trade: Siding, Windows, Seamless Gutters, Metal Roofing
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,196
Rewards Points: 2,364

Re: Best Replacement Window


Put my vote for sunrise. I have Kaskel in my house though no complaints i sell truck loads of them
__________________
Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.
Patrick is offline  
Old 06-19-2014, 05:52 AM   #56
Member
 
Delaware Mike's Avatar
 
Trade: window door siding contractor dealer
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Salem County New Jersey
Posts: 74
Rewards Points: 124

Re: Best Replacement Window


I've been installing the Sunrise lines for about a decade now and I really wish that their engineers would have put a little more thought into not just maximizing viewable glass with insert windows, but into a stronger vinyl extrusion that didn't always have frowned sills. Their frames vary from .060" to .080" depending upon where you take readings.

It's about the most expensive vinyl product out there too which was fine with me until they brought in a bunch a new people and cut out of their dealer promotions. The QC last fall was terrible and lead times aren't as good as in the past.
Delaware Mike is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Delaware Mike For This Useful Post:
HomeSealed (06-20-2014)
Old 06-19-2014, 09:44 AM   #57
The Sheriff

 
Jaws's Avatar
 
Trade: GC
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 21,825
Rewards Points: 24

Re: Best Replacement Window


Quote:
Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
Not to disagree, but E series is actually Andersen rather than Marvin.
Your right.

I used to use a lot of Anderson, but my rep went out of business, only olace local to order is through Home Depot, and that aint happening.

Anyone use Jeld Wen or Showcase? Any reviews?
__________________
"The sound of the saftey clicking off is the only warning your gonna get......., so cover your ears" Northeast Wyoming 2016

John
Jaws is offline  
Old 06-19-2014, 09:50 AM   #58
Pro
 
Fender's Avatar
 
Trade: General Contractor
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Oregon Coast
Posts: 129
Rewards Points: 157

Re: Best Replacement Window


I'm not a fan of Jeld wen. Idk if my experience came with their super low end windows, but they seem like junk compare to Milgard, or even Cascade.

Advertisement

Fender is offline  
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Fender For This Useful Post:
Jaws (06-19-2014), Tom Struble (06-20-2014)


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pressure washing and window seals. SuperiorHIP General Discussion 9 08-05-2012 07:19 PM
New construction Window bow/warp. Help typer0186 Windows, Siding and Doors 7 06-14-2012 09:38 AM
Reno Window Screw Up Bummie Windows, Siding and Doors 15 12-22-2008 10:33 PM
Attn: Window installers Mark 2 or Tapco pro 8'6" for replacement window installs jnremod Windows, Siding and Doors 7 12-21-2008 01:02 AM

Join Now... It's Fast and FREE!

I am a professional contractor
I am a DIY Homeowner
Drywall Talk is for
PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTORS ONLY!

At DrywallTalk.com we cater exlusivly to professional contractors who make their living as a contractor. Knowing that many homeowners and DIYers are looking for a community to call home, we've created www.DIYChatroom.com DIY Chatroom is full of helpful advices and perfect for DIY homeowners.

Redirecing in 10 seconds
No Thanks
terms of service

Already Have an Account?