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Old 08-13-2019, 05:45 PM   #1
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We (Techno Metal Post) were called in after the existing footings washed away and the temporary shoring was in place. We installed 4 helical piers for the (sunroom) addition, 1 helical pier for the corner of the house, and 8 for future stairs down. Ended up going down quite a bit deeper than the concrete
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:32 PM   #2
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You forgot the pics.

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I'm not sure what your question is, but the answer is

Tree-fiddy.
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I have been trying to upload photos. I keep getting failed or a security issue. Regardless of file type or size. I messaged admin last night. Waiting for a response.
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Got them to work
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Dropped almost 9"
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Any pics of your helical install?

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Any pics of your helical install?

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Backed it down the hill using winches. We took it to the first 'landing' and then drove it over and up onto the temporary platform we built on the temporary supports.
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We had to lower the machine again to the bottom of the hill to install the lower posts for the stairs and then installed the remaining stair posts as we worked our way up the hill.
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Looks like it could have gotten hairy.
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Looks like it could have gotten hairy.
I am surprised the room was still standing after the footings started washing away. Once it was supported nothing could move.

The only time it was sketchy was getting the machine up onto the platform. There was no place to tie off or winch from.
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How does somebody find you for that kind of job?
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How does somebody find you for that kind of job?
The contractor that did the temp support found us through Google. They do tons of structural repairs, concrete, foundations, steel work, etc. They knew helical was the way to go but couldn't find someone that could do it.
Some of the other manufacturers told them to pound sand.

Coincidentally, I saw them on another project and took a picture of their sign because I needed their services for another project. He called me a few days later, before I had a chance to call him. We are know working together on a couple of projects.
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Wow.

Didn't know NJ had any hills that steep. Or high.
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Wow.

Didn't know NJ had any hills that steep. Or high.
We have a few in the southern half, many more up north.
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Lots of mountains up north including a few ski sreas
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What's going on with the "tenon" on one of the two support columns? And the funky bolts on the 2x's?
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What's going on with the "tenon" on one of the two support columns? And the funky bolts on the 2x's?
I assume you mean on the 6x6? That is common, we don't do it but I see it often.

Not sure what bolts you are talking about.

Regardless, this was all done by some one else which is the same person that installed those footings that failed.
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Got them to work
I'm not sure you can call that last picture with the 3" piece of concrete a footing. Hacks.

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