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Old 03-29-2019, 05:48 AM   #1
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Need advice on how to find a solid employer that sees my potential. I’m 32 I’ve only been in carpentry for 3.5 years. I spent 6 year in the Army, and had a rough time transitioning to civilian life after multiple deployments to Iraq. I wish I would’ve gotten a real job sooner instead of wasting time in college. Long story short I took a job as a helper to make ends meet. I fell in love. Fits me perfect, gave me my purpose again. I pick up quick and have a strong work ethic along with other qualities obtained in the Army that seem to fit well in the trades. I’m married and have kids and can’t seem to find a secure job where I can advance. I always hear what I want hear after I show up and show how I work. Starts off great. They seem happy with my willingness to work and the thirst I have to learn. Then after a year or so it seems to fizzle out. Promises made are soon found to be nothing but hot air. I feel like most sub contractors that I find that are hiring have no need for a man like me or end up taking advantage of my ambition to learn, as I’m sure most of you know it takes years to get to a point where you can branch out. I have no desire for this anytime soon. Only construction jobs I seem to find are on Craigslist. How does one find a contractor or bigger company looking for employees they want to invest in? That being said I have a criminal record from when I first left the military. Haven’t been in trouble in years since I settled back in and grew up some more. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I’m not giving up I enjoy working hard not to mention I’ve alre started investing, truck tools etc. I still have some GI bill left any school options? I know there’s no 4 year degree saying you a qualified craftsman. Thank You
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Old 03-29-2019, 06:53 AM   #2
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Mike, first and foremost, thank you for your service.


You didn't mention where you are located, that may be helpful. I not sure I have solid advice for you except I would find out who the big, reputable, busiest, best, contractors are in your area. Do some homework as to who you would want to work for, then try knocking on their doors.


Is there a trade union in your area? they may be a path to training and employment.


I would say forget Craigslist and the sub in a beat up van looking for his next job, they will not get you anywhere.


The quality guys out there are looking for solid employees. Best of luck.

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^^^ this! And thank you for your service.

When I was looking, I'd see good looking yard signs (not plastic -- actual built signs), research the company, and if I liked the look of them, walk up to the job and talk to them to see if they might be hiring.
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Thank you for your service, Mike.

My brother in law retired after 23 years in and picked up a job as a laborer with some large construction company in the midwest that does a lot of work on military bases. That might be something worth looking into. I can find out the name if you'd like

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Come on up to Michigan, brother! I've been trying to hire two new guys for weeks. Got more work to do here then can ever be done, man.
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You may want to move past looking for companies who are hiring and look for companies you would want to work for and apply. A lot of jobs get filled this way and no advertising is done. People like the initiative and coming from someone who served it will be taken even more serious. If you do this to 15 or 20 good companies I would not be surprised if you have a few to choose between. Things are moving, its hard to find help and its spring.
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Thank you to all who have replied. I haven’t given that much thought, walking in and talking to companies. My having a record brings strong fear of rejection, I’ve been shot down by some reputable outfits. Been a few years back, and I have tried that recently. I’m in CLT NC. Work is booming! Worst I can hear is no. I’ll say this I’m not giving up. We are doing a real disservice to our nations young men. That’s all I heard coming up and even exiting the military. College college college. That’s for the birds. Nothing like rolling up after finishing a job looking at the completed project, no substitute IMO. Thanks again
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Thank you to all who have replied. I haven’t given that much thought, walking in and talking to companies. My having a record brings strong fear of rejection, I’ve been shot down by some reputable outfits. Been a few years back, and I have tried that recently. I’m in CLT NC. Work is booming! Worst I can hear is no. I’ll say this I’m not giving up. We are doing a real disservice to our nations young men. That’s all I heard coming up and even exiting the military. College college college. That’s for the birds. Nothing like rolling up after finishing a job looking at the completed project, no substitute IMO. Thanks again
To be honest, a lot does depend on what your criminal record was. I have one for smoking pot in 2000 and got in a couple bar fights but no one gives a damn about that.

Stealing, domestic abuse, sexual crimes are about the only ones that would really keep me from hiring someone. And honestly, if that was a ways back and you've shown you've outgrown it and paid your debt, I doubt most people care about that as much as you think. The industry is desperate for people who are willing and able to learn.

I have a buddy not far from you who said trim Carpenters and Timber frame Carpenters could absolutely kill it right now near the lakes and mountains. If I was you, I'd look to get specialized, wished I would have done it sooner. Go to find a timber frame house that is exquisite, ask who built, and ask for a job. Rinse and repeat.

You service goes a long way in making people forgive the criminal record. Don't discount that.
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Maybe I'm Late, but where are you from, what was your conviction?
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This might be way to late to be of use to you now, but if some one stumbles upon this it might help them a bit:

I've got roughly two years of age and experience on you, coming to the trades later in life myself.

I've found that initialy with prospective employers, 34 years old and relatively inexperienced was a red flag for them, but I'd turn it into a positive by letting them know at my age I have considerably more on the line then a 17 year old kid, and I'm still willing to do what it takes to work from the bottom up. Also you age (and service record,) is an advantage in the way of maturity, common sense and attitude, which are arguable some of the most important attributes for a new hire.
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Iíll pretty much hire hire anybody with a pulse at this point.......
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You may want to move past looking for companies who are hiring and look for companies you would want to work for and apply. A lot of jobs get filled this way and no advertising is done. People like the initiative and coming from someone who served it will be taken even more serious. If you do this to 15 or 20 good companies I would not be surprised if you have a few to choose between. Things are moving, its hard to find help and its spring.
This is pretty good advice.

I would strongly recommend steering clear of residential or light commercial builders as there are very few of them that will have a good pay and benefit package, plus safety is almost non-existent. Try to hook up with a reputable contractor that does industrial, institutional, civil or heavy highway work. These are the outfits that will pay the best wage, have a full benefit package with insurance, retirement, vacations, etc. as well as a safe work environment and opportunities to advance to the top of construction pay potential.

The firm I just retired from did exclusively industrial work. We had job supervisors that cleared $100,000 and better, plus the full benefit package and a vehicle.
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Need advice on how to find a solid employer that sees my potential.

Iím 32 Iíve only been in carpentry for 3.5 years. I spent 6 year in the Army, and had a rough time transitioning to civilian life after multiple deployments to Iraq. I wish I wouldíve gotten a real job sooner instead of wasting time in college.

Long story short I took a job as a helper to make ends meet. I fell in love. Fits me perfect, gave me my purpose again. I pick up quick and have a strong work ethic along with other qualities obtained in the Army that seem to fit well in the trades.

Iím married and have kids and canít seem to find a secure job where I can advance. I always hear what I want hear after I show up and show how I work. Starts off great. They seem happy with my willingness to work and the thirst I have to learn. Then after a year or so it seems to fizzle out. Promises made are soon found to be nothing but hot air.

I feel like most sub contractors that I find that are hiring have no need for a man like me or end up taking advantage of my ambition to learn, as Iím sure most of you know it takes years to get to a point where you can branch out. I have no desire for this anytime soon. Only construction jobs I seem to find are on Craigslist.

How does one find a contractor or bigger company looking for employees they want to invest in? That being said I have a criminal record from when I first left the military. Havenít been in trouble in years since I settled back in and grew up some more.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Iím not giving up I enjoy working hard not to mention Iíve alre started investing, truck tools etc. I still have some GI bill left any school options? I know thereís no 4 year degree saying you a qualified craftsman.

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Thank you for your service!

First thing you need is to start learning to break up your sentence into paragraphs for easy reading and when you apply for the job and prep your resume, your employee will appreciate that.

Something like in the quote above.

As everything else goes, follow the suggestions above, and keep at it and someone will find you for what you worth and give you a long-lasting job.

Good luck
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How's the search goin dude? Reading through all the replies all I think I can add is to say tha whatever you did bad is in the past and that having a wife and kids/ responsibilities is something you want to emphasize. The trick is is to get if front of the right person who will hear this. The best employees are the guys with families and bills to pay. I would overlook a criminal history if it's not current and I feel the guy has his priorities straight.
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got this off google.

these are the type of company to check out.

good luck.

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...ntractors.html

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