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Old 01-24-2014, 04:06 PM   #1121
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He did ask my opinion on how to fix. But he is a retired architect, and the whole basement project seems to be fun for him. He already had a solution in mind, that was similar to my reccomendation, and I'm willing to bet it's fixed by now.

We were just there to install a double LVL header for a doorway that was going from 3ft wide to 78" wide. He wasn't comfortable doing that on his own.
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:05 PM   #1122
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I'm by no means a roofer but I think this belongs here



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They did the whole roof in 8x8 squares
What did they do between the squares? Was underlayment in 8x8 squares too?
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:31 PM   #1123
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I'm by no means a roofer but I think this belongs here They did the whole roof in 8x8 squares
If they are doing what I think they are doing it's really not as bad as you think
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:13 PM   #1124
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They did the whole roof in 8x8 squares
Its called racking and while its not recommended by all roofing manufacturers it is an effective method that can be quicker and will still result in a quality roof.
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:34 PM   #1125
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What did they do between the squares? Was underlayment in 8x8 squares too?
They only do underlayment for the first 4 feet and in valleys around here
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:35 PM   #1126
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Its called racking and while its not recommended by all roofing manufacturers it is an effective method that can be quicker and will still result in a quality roof.
Good to know. Never seen it like that before
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Three joists under the bath tub.
The one I had was 5 or 6 joists under a bathroom, only a shower up there so no tub full of water but I think I still jacked up that floor 2 inches.
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Unfortunately racking is all to common.
3 tabs, sure i guess so.
Archis... no thanks
Mid winter i would be really hesitant to rack any type of shingle, especially dimensionals... thick, brittle material being bent back every other course to nail.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:53 AM   #1129
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Never seen this done before either. How do you transition between the squares so there aren't 8' vertical seems? What's the deal with bending the shingles over Nick?
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Never seen this done before either. How do you transition between the squares so there aren't 8' vertical seems? What's the deal with bending the shingles over Nick?
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I'm not following how that's any faster. Obviously not higher quality install than stepping off either. So what's the point?
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:26 PM   #1132
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I don't mind racking 3 tab, but I paper the whole roof and snap every horizontal first.

I've seen it done with laminates and I hate it. Looks like crap.

I never took pictures, but last year I replaced a few shingles on a Barn. Owner had had shed, barn, and house all redone year before. In replacing about 4 blown off shingles I found three places with nails right under the bleeder....

I often wonder how long it'll be till his house leaks.
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You can't pin that on OC guys. You can find chitty work everywhere. Although it's guys that do chitty work that keep me busy.
Sorry Mike, didn't mean to imply that it is typical of all OC workmanship. As we all know it can be found everywhere.

I do however hold you personally responsible for the 35 min it took me last night on the 91E between Weir Canyon and Green River. Dammmmn!
Don't know how you do it.

@m1911, Yeah it is too far to drive for a job. Remove acoustics, install crown, and paint for a friend. 7-8 days to fill time before 3 larger projects kick in closer to home.

BTW, that crown was removed today, cut for an outside miter and spray foam used as caulking.
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Laguna Woods is a retirement community, lots of hacks doing work in there. I have looked at a dozen + roofs in there and its not a pretty sight. Problem is back in the 80s they got a couple of contracts to install Decra and Gerard roofing, over the existing shake. Not a walkable system to the untrained. The maintenance folks there just walk all over them and have ruined 1000s of squares. Some leak, some don't but on only because the wood shake under them is still semi intact.
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Reason why its apparently faster is that it eliminates side to side movement, you can sit in one spot and shuffle 3' up the roof and lay a bundle.
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http://imgur.com/a/8w1xW I'm speechless
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There are about 5 threads about this "shed" on here. It's still pretty funny though
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that new shed looks like its 60 years old already.

I would love to know what he was using the ax and the hedge trimmers for
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I never did see that shed till now. Seriously, what the hell kind of crack shack is that? I certainly don't think anyone on this forum could build that bad even if they tried.
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I don't see the problem with it?! Hahaha but seriously that's shocking

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