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Old 12-27-2019, 09:25 PM   #8001
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And here comes the, quality: quantity struggle. Hope you can get the guys back on track and get them back up to speed Andy.

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You forgot to mention doing 100 more roofs next year.





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Old 12-28-2019, 05:04 PM   #8002
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The nailing issues will be corrected. I need to find us a damn shop space so I can build a training roof line.
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What are your feelings on that valley? Iíve never seen it done like that before, but it seems like a pretty easy and quick way to do it. Any downsides?
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What are your feelings on that valley? Iíve never seen it done like that before, but it seems like a pretty easy and quick way to do it. Any downsides?
The california valleys are fine and my preferred method. Issue on that valley is the installer ran it backwards in my opinion to up the sq count

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The california valleys are fine and my preferred method. Issue on that valley is the installer ran it backwards in my opinion to up the sq count


I prefer that way as well.

How would doing it that way up the square count?




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I prefer that way as well.

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They are paid by the sq. Uses more shingles to basically double layer a few sections like that

They used in my opinion about 4 or 5 too many sq on this job
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Why not pay per the correctly performed task?
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I never liked that valley technique.

The attitude of efficiency and valued effort seems to be long gone. I use a shingle up gable ends and roofing snips to trim as I fill in the edge. Virtually no waste but if I sub out these pricks want to run wild and strike a line wasting a ton of material.
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The high side is always the cut side of the valley. BTW
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The high side is always the cut side of the valley. BTW
Not when there is more water coming the other way
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Well seeing we have already had 65" since Sept and 125" for the year I would say we don't get much. It's a dry snow.

Can you imagine all the water that funnels down there when it rains, Gutter guy is going to have to get creative.
Talking to the roofer this morning of needing a kick out on this and kind of gives me a deer in the headlights look. So I did it before he started shingling it.

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must be the year of horrible decks.
just finished fixing one, now this one to tear down and re-do.
I don't think one single item was correct or even close to right
almost had to see it in person to appreciate it!!

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Why is it that 90% of DIY decks have a ledger or beam or both that run longer than the actual deck frame?
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I hope they didnt pay someone for that


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oh, they did pay him. I don't know how much
he still wants to come back and "fix" it
we tore it all down today

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must be the year of horrible decks.
just finished fixing one, now this one to tear down and re-do.
I don't think one single item was correct or even close to right
almost had to see it in person to appreciate it!!

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Did you pee around that to mark your territory?

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Did you pee around that to mark your territory?

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If he did, he'd better get that checked out, colors a bit off lol

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I circled the part that was wrong!!

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What are they going to do with that combustion air intake?
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I just dont get how decks can be difficult for people to build at least to code/safe and not look like a heap of garbage
It's all the extremely basics skills coming together. Decks obviously get complicated but this one was not.

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