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Old 05-12-2019, 02:10 PM   #21
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Other than some basements we never have DW returns here. Most is vinyl extensions on the window and then Mdf trim.

Some cheap basement guys do swing returns but I find they get beat up really bad in a basement so I do mdf or paint grade wood. (Basements here are 8 concrete and then a frost wall usually 5 to face of drywall.)
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Old 05-12-2019, 02:13 PM   #22
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I like the clean look myself, my own home, not low end, is all rocked. But buyers of low end are not expecting full trim outs.
Looks cheap.
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I iike drywall returns, good money maker when I tear them out and install jambs, stools and trim.

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Same here and as for the color white it's always been the predominate color around here. Starting a job Monday tearing out all the stained wood and replacing with white, I get a lot more clients wanting painted rather than stained and I refuse to paint existing stained woodwork.
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I did bullnose returns on my house because that's what my wife wanted. I prefer wife trim with a stool and apron.
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I'm a stained/finished wood guy, the colors and white don't really do it for me.

Finished wood has stood the test of time.

Gotta go with what's trending---no matter how stupid.

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A lot of houses I have worked in people never take care of the wood/ stained trim. look terrible all dried out and weathered.
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This is one, started 6 weeks ago.
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Anyone notice how the color white is the #1 pick today?

white's and grey's. matte on the wall and semi-gloss all the same shade is trendy here.
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Beautiful work, but it won't be in a $100 a sq/ft home when built.

Anyone notice how the color white is the #1 pick today? 20 years ago, light oak here.....then the color craze, and now we are on white.
Painting trim gray is becoming popular here.
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I like the clean look myself, my own home, not low end, is all rocked. But buyers of low end are not expecting full trim outs.
In the modern houses here, super expensive high end homes they do as little trim as possible. Even the base is flush to the drywall.
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In the modern houses here, super expensive high end homes they do as little trim as possible. Even the base is flush to the drywall.
That's gotten popular here, no trim around doors, flush base with a 1/2" reveal. Problem is your drywall finish has to be perfect and I've never seen one executed well.
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In the modern houses here, super expensive high end homes they do as little trim as possible. Even the base is flush to the drywall.
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That's gotten popular here, no trim around doors, flush base with a 1/2" reveal. Problem is your drywall finish has to be perfect and I've never seen one executed well.
Do they use reglet (Fry is probably the most popular brand) to terminate the drywall for these flush installs?

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Do they use reglet (Fry is probably the most popular brand) to terminate the drywall for these flush installs?

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Tom I'm just there running wires, so I really don't know, but it looks like TrimTex Shadow Bead.
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That's gotten popular here, no trim around doors, flush base with a 1/2" reveal. Problem is your drywall finish has to be perfect and I've never seen one executed well.
All the houses on the beach pay a fortune to have level 5 walls and lasered bottoms with vinyl stop. Not sure what the stop is called. I just know as soon as I walk in I roll my eyes and think... ****.

It looks clean, just a royal pain in the ass to scribe to the floor and make the reveal stay the same.

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I prefer wife trim with a........ apron.


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I agree with it looks clean and it looks cheap. I guess I'm natural about the look. What makes or breaks it is that the RO gets shimmied so the reveal on the window is dead on, otherwise it looks horrendous.
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Around here the "high end" builders have managed to merge the worst of both worlds. They drywall return the windows then trim them out !!! On top of that the guys who do the drywall returns generally cut every corner possible it seems. None of them use any sort of tear away or L bead on the inside and very few even flat tape the drywall to the window then the painters are left to deal with it which they don't they just add caulk over it all which cracks in a year or two. Drywall returns done well and used in the right applications can be great but generally around me they are just used to cut corners... i mean cost.
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Around here the "high end" builders have managed to merge the worst of both worlds. They drywall return the windows then trim them out !!! On top of that the guys who do the drywall returns generally cut every corner possible it seems. None of them use any sort of tear away or L bead on the inside and very few even flat tape the drywall to the window then the painters are left to deal with it which they don't they just add caulk over it all which cracks in a year or two. Drywall returns done well and used in the right applications can be great but generally around me they are just used to cut corners... i mean cost.
Why would anyone put drywall returns on Windows and then trim them out? Have you seen this done on multiple buildings?

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Off hand i can think of three builders who do this as standard practice. It boggles my mind.
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Why would anyone put drywall returns on Windows and then trim them out? Have you seen this done on multiple buildings?

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Cheaper than ordering windows with jambs applied or paying a finish carpenter to apply wood jambs.

I haven’t “ordered” drywall returns in quite a few years but based on what I pay for other drywalling I can’t see how it’s cheaper than ordering windows with jambs applied.

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