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Old 08-30-2018, 07:32 PM   #1
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A good friend of mine was fired on his second of work. He left early first 2 days of new job. The heat was too much. They were putting up cedar shake siding. Was that fair?
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Old 08-30-2018, 07:33 PM   #2
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fair or not, it is a reality of life.

especially in construction, if you don't/can't perform you are out.
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He's a liability plain and simple. Dude is not cut out to be working in those conditions, so it is unsafe for him and it is unsafe for his crew and it is unsafe for his employer.

I let my own brother-in-law go for the same reason. Dude is just not cut out for it

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he 's 64 yo. been in construction over 40 years.
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Maybe he's too old man. 64 is not that old, my father-in-law is fully retired and bored, he works for me sometimes and he outworks the younger guys. When I framed my house last year you would have thought he was a professional decking man.

I'm sure griz can still get after it at 65

Tin just framed a big ass addition at 68

A carpenter I've known for years switch to an inside job as an estimator when he couldn't hack it at 44.

Everybody is different.

all that matters is at this point he is not able to hack it. Doesn't matter how good he was 40 years ago to the guy riding his check or to the guys picking up his Slack. Is just the way it is

Maybe he should get a trim job
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he 's 64 yo. been in construction over 40 years.
Sounds like you were fair to him all things considered...
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Sounds like you were fair to him all things considered...
Doesn't sound like he fired him

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I think its sad. You work all your life just to get canned, I realize its business.
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I think its sad. You work all your life just to get canned, I realize its business.
It is sad dude. It is also just business like you said

The guy should have gotten into something easier on his body at some point. Sometimes you have to get to the point you can't do it anymore I guess to make that decision

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Have the Guy go see his Doctor to check for health issues that would cause his inability to work out side in moderate heat/Sun shine.

Was the man laid up for awhile? Working in an Air condition job most of the Summer? Alcoholic/druggie?

Is he FAT?

Maybe hire him part time Mornings to transfer some skills to the Youngsters?

Ask your underwriters if he is risk to employ? Don't Guess one way or another.

If your are working your 30 years so hard an average 60 year old can't keep up, is that a safe, healthy workplace long term?

There is a tiny chance it was the cedar saw dust that debilitated him.....
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Doesn't sound like he fired him

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A guy with 40 years experience and a friend he might have another use for him...

But maybe not depending on his needs...
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That's just one employer.

So many areas the building market is going gangbusters. Take a day to chill, square the shoulders up, and look for the next, even better job.
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A guy with 40 years experience and a friend he might have another use for him...

But maybe not depending on his needs...
I don't think you read the same thing I read, sounds like this guy was working for somebody else. Meaning Mike D was not his boss

Yeah I tried to move my brother-in-law into a superintendent roll, that did not work. So he had to go.

I 40 year Carpenter I imagine I would have found something good for him to do without hanging Cedar Shakes

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I don't think you read the same thing I read, sounds like this guy was working for somebody else. Meaning Mike D was not his boss

Yeah I tried to move my brother-in-law into a superintendent roll, that did not work. So he had to go.

I 40 year Carpenter I imagine I would have found something good for him to do without hanging Cedar Shakes

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Upon re-reading it, I guess I misread that one...
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Upon re-reading it, I guess I misread that one...
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Wasn’t that good if he got canned.

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That's just one employer.

So many areas the building market is going gangbusters. Take a day to chill, square the shoulders up, and look for the next, even better job.
I was doing a job in a development about a month ago and the HOA had a contractor replacing all the front porch/decks.

There were two guys working on those decks that had to be at least 70.
It was kind of funny watching them. It would take two of them, one on each end of the board to carry a 2x8x12. Looked like something from a Three Stooges show. Imagine two Curly's carrying around a 2x8.

It got me thinking: Is labor that short that these guys get easily hired?
Do they have to work at their age?
Do they want to work like that at their age?

All of the above?
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Wasnít that good if he got canned.

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I would agree. If he was that great theyíd find something for him to do. Maybe thatís harsh but itís the truth


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If he's been in construction for 40 years , it's probably not the first time he's been looking for a job.

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