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Old 05-28-2013, 09:11 PM   #101
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one day we will be venting stud bays..
Stud bays were vented a hundred years ago, before platform framing, fiberglass batts and plywood sheets.

I've always said that there is an even balance needed between insulation and ventilation. Depending upon the local climate and construction techniques, that balance is a moving target.

As far as OSB, after the last few homes I used plywood on, I prefer OSB. With the introduction of Advantech, my personal opinion is their is no comparison between it and other products.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:24 PM   #102
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well..yea..but then and now is apples an oranges
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The last few years I have had to do more roofing than I ever wanted to do I have seen way to many sheets of plywood coming apart the only problems I have seen with osb if there where leaks and it stayed wet and rot but plywood rots to
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I had not seen a mold issue on OSB until this past winter. It was one of the reasons I signed up on this site. I'm on the dry side of the state but still get our share of rain/snow in the late fall/early winter.

I put down 3/4" Weyerhaeuser gold edge, which I think is suppose to be a 220 day exposure rating.
I sheeted the floor oct. 26 and had the house dried in around the 12th of dec. we had a fair amount of rain and snow, but still nothing like on the west side. With 30ish degree weather.

I ran a heater for few days to try to dry it out and poof! Mold, everywhere, every square foot of the flooring in the crawlspace. We've run heaters in the past with no problems. Used the same flooring with no problems. I'm not sure what the difference was this time.

This floor also swelled more than I have ever seen. I spaced everything an 1/8". Not only did the spacing disappear, but in some areas the flooring was starting to buckle. I ran several house drying fans, constant, for several months and the spacing is back to normal.

I'm not sure what that says about the product, the floor doesn't need sanding. I'm sure it was the few days that I ran the heater that caused the mold. I have to think that the mold is far more common in the hot humid climates.

BTW I got a quote for mold remediation to the tune of 18,000$ their plan was to soda blast the crawlspace. Mold free certification was additional.
If you're talking about the underside of the subfloor in the crawl space, then you had a venting problem. I take back what I said about never seeing it on new construction, I have seen it in crawl spaces. In my case the siders waited about two weeks to cut out the vents after covering them up. BTW, you can rent a soda blaster or dry ice blaster for about $500, did you ask them what the other $17,500 was for?
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one day we will be venting stud bays..




Just maybe one day we as a nation will wake up and get back to building for posterity and build more mass walled masonry buildings.
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Just maybe one day we as a nation will wake up and get back to building for posterity and build more mass walled masonry buildings.
You mean like this? Fv(k that!
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No, actually I mean this.......http://hopeforarchitecture.com/
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yea..but disposable is keeping most of us in business
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BTW, you can rent a soda blaster or dry ice blaster for about $500, did you ask them what the other $17,500 was for?
Maybe......labor, materials, risk, knowledge, experience, liability, overhead, profit, etc....

How do you respond when someone asks you a silly question like that?
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No, actually I mean this.......http://hopeforarchitecture.com/
No, thanks. I prefer the homes we see on the shoreline of CT, RI and MA and the colonials we see inland. Cedar clapboard or shingles. Never been a fan of brick and stone houses.

You posted that link the last time you took a swing at OSB as well.
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You posted that link the last time you took a swing at OSB as well.[/QUOTE]



That is very true,it may take awhile to get it to sink in however,there was dead silence to the previous post addressing the lack of nail holding ability of OSB for wood flooring wasn't there? Or will this be another rebuttle that the source is flawed as in the reference to F.H.B. magazine?


The link referenced said if you are a home owner pop for the plywood,if you are a builder and trying to save a buck go for the OSB.

One hand has already been tipped in this thread by a contributor that the money is the prime moving force behind their decisions,not much mention about quality
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No, thanks. I prefer the homes we see on the shoreline of CT, RI and MA and the colonials we see inland. Cedar clapboard or shingles. Never been a fan of brick and stone houses.


Well you can count yourself as part of the majority in the U.S.A.however,with masonry buildings being the vast majority (over 70%) in the rest of the world you will fall far short.

As mentioned to me several times when I left the country and the discussion revolved around differences in construction methods; it was asked,with America being one of the wealthiest countries in the world,how come your homes are so fragile? That is how a good portion of the world views our housing stock,fragile.

The wonderful thing about our country is we all get to hold our own opinions,you yours and me mine. Mine is,OSB helps to promote the fragile perspective held by many of the inhabitants in the rest of the world regarding our housing stock.
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Well you can count yourself as part of the majority in the U.S.A.however,with masonry buildings being the vast majority (over 70%) in the rest of the world you will fall far short.

As mentioned to me several times when I left the country and the discussion revolved around differences in construction methods; it was asked,with America being one of the wealthiest countries in the world,how come your homes are so fragile? That is how a good portion of the world views our housing stock,fragile.

The wonderful thing about our country is we all get to hold our own opinions,you yours and me mine. Mine is,OSB helps to promote the fragile perspective held by many of the inhabitants in the rest of the world regarding our housing stock.
I don't base my decisions about what the rest of the world is doing. I'm an American, not a "citizen of the world" type. I am partial to the style of home that the great men who colonized this nation built.

As for the building materials I select, I use Hubber engineered products. They are usually more expensive than plywood. That's fine with me. Plywood has been so problematic over the last few years, I have no use for it anymore.

You can do whatever you please. But being that you don't use your real name, don't list a locale, admited to basically "hiding" your true trade experience and then decided to throw that old "I've been doing this longer than you've been alive" line to me, I would say that you and I probably don't have much to discuss.

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Maybe......labor, materials, risk, knowledge, experience, liability, overhead, profit, etc....

How do you respond when someone asks you a silly question like that?
I would say, for pain and suffering. I would not want to do it. No thanks.

Rob, just curious, how common of a practice is soda blasting for mold?
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All I know is OSB has doubled in price in less than a year and I am not buying anymore until the price goes back to what it was .
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You can do whatever you please. But being that you don't use your real name, don't list a locale, admited to basically "hiding" your true trade experience and then decided to throw that old "I've been doing this longer than you've been alive" line to me, I would say that you and I probably don't have much to discuss.


First off,the majority of members choose not to use their name,that is neither here nor there. "Hiding" your true trade experience is really reaching on your end. To not list all ones experience could be interpreted as modesty ,if one was to look at it from an open mind.


As far as the great men who established this nation,while you are at it why not read Jefferson's take on your storied place.


If you are interested in a more current author,read your East coast author, James Howard Kunstler's two books "The Geography Of Nowhere & Home From Nowhere" he can explain it to you how you ended up with your white clap boards.


You are right on one point,we do not have anything more to talk about........your mind is made up and you do not wish to be confused with any facts.
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All I know is OSB has doubled in price in less than a year and I am not buying anymore until the price goes back to what it was .
Did you stop buying gas when it tripled in price?
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