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Old 03-09-2012, 09:49 AM   #161
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:06 AM   #162
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:39 AM   #163
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I would love to see the 3000sf house you built by yourself when you were 16 in a day. That was all hand nailing too right? Laughing

Not trying to say that you aren't probably a great carpenter but come on.
He milled all his own dimensional lumber and mortise and tenoned every joint by hand too.

That was all before lunch mind you.

Those one day frames by yourself have very strict schedules.
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He milled all his own dimensional lumber
Not only did he mill it he felled every tree himself from the land the house was going on.

He had to start that day pretty early.
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:07 PM   #165
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Be nice guys.
We're mostly complimenting this carpentry genius.

Master Carpenter/Plumber/Electrician/Architect/Engineer. I've never in my life met anybody with this sort of talent so I'm really just in awe.
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Old 03-09-2012, 12:51 PM   #167
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Killer Jr.?????
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Killer Jr.?????
Killer Sr.

Killer does a deck in 2 days with 2 guys, this guy does a 3000 s.f. house in one day by himself.
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We're mostly complimenting this carpentry genius.

Master Carpenter/Plumber/Electrician/Architect/Engineer. I've never in my life met anybody with this sort of talent so I'm really just in awe.
Ya I was thinking the same but I figured I would leave that out too much to comprehend. I will be happy to become a master carpenter.
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Mike Finley messing with us??????
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I think you've got it And great job I must say
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Not only did he mill it he felled every tree himself from the land the house was going on.

He had to start that day pretty early.
Lol!
Had to put in a full 10 that day huh.
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An older carpenter I met many years ago told me "Don't even call yourself a 'carpenter' until you can build an entire house and the furniture in it by yourself." He would also kick you in the ass for saying "wood" instead of "lumber".
I've been on numerous jobs with carpenters who came up through the union programs and listened to them complain about "all those self-taught hacks". Then I tell them that they're talking about me and they're shocked because they've been picking up tricks from me all along.
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I wished that I had worked for a Master Carpenter over the years. I work for myself now, but I would have learned so much more with a MC. Unfortunately, every general contractor/ carpenter I ever worked for was either a con-artist or couldn't do good bids & went belly up.
I can't do good bids myself so I charge by the hour.
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if you pay attention to the types of jobs you do by the hour and material..
you will be able to estimate the jobs just like anyone else.

and to add to that yes there are some jobs it's just too difficult to estimate and you're better off going cost plus.
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An older carpenter I met many years ago told me "Don't even call yourself a 'carpenter' until you can build an entire house and the furniture in it by yourself." He would also kick you in the ass for saying "wood" instead of "lumber".
I've been on numerous jobs with carpenters who came up through the union programs and listened to them complain about "all those self-taught hacks". Then I tell them that they're talking about me and they're shocked because they've been picking up tricks from me all along.
I'll play devil's advocate here and just say that all those self taught guys I've ever worked with complained about us union hacks and then I blow them away with all the skills I was taught by the generations before me.

Tricks are cool too though
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I'll play devil's advocate here and just say that all those self taught guys I've ever worked with complained about us union hacks and then I blow them away with all the skills I was taught by the generations before me.

Tricks are cool too though
Am I right in saying there are two different kinds of carpenters- residential and commercial. Commercial being union in alot of cases. I've worked with commercial carpenters and they for the most part don't have a clue about how to build a house, I've never worked as a comercial carpenter so I do t know how complicated it is?
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Am I right in saying there are two different kinds of carpenters- residential and commercial. Commercial being union in alot of cases. I've worked with commercial carpenters and they for the most part don't have a clue about how to build a house, I've never worked as a comercial carpenter so I do t know how complicated it is?
I've never worked commercial either, not really at least. Been on wood framed buildings that were commercial buildings but we built them like giant houses. Most of my career has been/was residential. Where I live most of the residential building was union, non union was mostly remodels or customs. Things have changed with the housing bubble collapse. There's a question as to whether union companies will get back into residential. It's a cut throat industry with small profit margins compared to commercial and industrial.

If this tells you anything, right now I'm erecting scaffold in a refinery. Easy money, and lots of it, but I sure do miss framing, even if I do get called fewer expletives and the pace is around that of a snail. I will say, I've never used a hand saw so much in my life. Hardly any power tools, and certainly no radio! Makes for a long day.

Oh and to finally answer your question, there's a lot more types of carpenters than two. I just listed 3 and the back of my card lists a dozen or so more, and that's skimming the surface at best.
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Had in interviewee tell me that today, I told him I was a prostitute, I build whatever I am paid to.

Look on his face was funny, he left quickly.
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Had in interviewee tell me that today, I told him I was a prostitute, I build whatever I am paid to.

Look on his face was funny, he left quickly.
My best friend was filling out an application at the gc's kitchen table. Gc's wife standing right there with a couple of there kids. Buddy leans over and says "occupation? how do you spell prostitute?" wife was not impressed.

Same buddy calls down to a company 90 miles away, they want him to fax a resume, he says "fax? I just told you the facts, the fact is I'm looking for a job!"

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