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Old 04-10-2012, 03:45 PM   #1
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This house is pretty simple however the homeowner has a specific roof plan he wants. He saw this on another house and I am trying to match the design. Due to the size of the house (under 1,400), I am trying to keep the cost at a minimum without sacrificing structure. on one side, the roof will basically have a gable over a large open area. How would you design/build the main side gables over the living area? Unfortunately, the homeowner isn't flexible on the 'look'.

I am considering adding a stub wall between the living room / dining room and also between the dining room/kitchen. However adding these walls to hold the beam will definitely affect the interior feel. What size ceiling joists (i-joists) would would I need to handle the gable if I didn't have the beams/stub walls? Fyi, this is in the south so everything is Southern Yellow Pine. If I left out any other details, please let me know.

see attached floorplan and elevations... both very rough at this point.

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Old 04-10-2012, 05:01 PM   #2
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May I suggest you contact an engineer in your area for the beam and lumber sizing?

And I know that this is not your design but the question that comes to my mind is...what were they thinking?

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Thumbs up for Scipio's answer. If you're just looking for a general idea: http://www.southernpine.com/download...ame=ref207.pdf

It's going to be a really big honking beam.
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Or you could just give it to the truss company to figure out and install fake beams where the HO wants them.
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A big box beam could also handle it. Terrible floor plan for the roof design, or vice versa.
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And I know that this is not your design but the question that comes to my mind is...what were they thinking?

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If you design homes then you should know that we quite often are 'ordered' to do things that make no sense at all.
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If you design homes then you should know that we quite often are 'ordered' to do things that make no sense at all.
I know that only too well.

I had to design a second story addition to a u-shaped house once that made me cry it was so ugly.

Here it is.

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I know that only too well.

I had to design a second story addition to a u-shaped house once that made me cry it was so ugly.

Here it is.

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nice! Is that Chief or Softplan you are using? I have been looking into using one of them to start drawing in 3D.
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you can draw the hell out of them,but that don't mean it will work
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nice! Is that Chief or Softplan you are using? I have been looking into using one of them to start drawing in 3D.
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