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Old 07-18-2012, 10:28 PM   #61
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2nd that!
What a waste of time. I do it with 2x6 as well unless its plate.
Yeeha! For double plate, no square, no tape either.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:32 PM   #62
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Yepir, i jus toss double on the wall and if its an over plate just run it through the next channel back and cut there. I dont realy plate with a tape either, for the most part i just line it up on the floor and cut there, i cut out door plates as i plate as well, you?
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Yepir, i jus toss double on the wall and if its an over plate just run it through the next channel back and cut there. I dont realy plate with a tape either, for the most part i just line it up on the floor and cut there, i cut out door plates as i plate as well, you?
Sometimes, depends. I'm usually assembling my walls (8', 9', & 10") at a table set up under shade trees (when possible) so I don't have the floor infront of me to go by, I'll leave the doors in the longer walls to make them sturdier to carry.
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That must be one heck of a table?
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Pretty much only use the square when plating. Just drag the pencil under the tape for everything else. I'll use a framing square for marking multiple blocks. I prefer to leave door plates in- helps keep things parallel and have the plate there to nail braces to. But I'll leave the trimmers out so I can just come through with a saw and cut them out later.
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That must be one heck of a table?
Not Really. I use my scaffold planks (wood pole pumpjack style, 2/4s and ply), double stacked and spread apart, to table the assembly on. It raises the work up 8" off the ground and allows me to make good use of available shade (If available?). It really does make wall day(s) more enjoyable, (that's what my legs and back tell me).

You know, here in South Central Texas, we have a saying, "You have to be smarter than a dog, and all a dog knows how to do is get out of the sun."


Even in the sun, better with the table.

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Just the other day I saw a carpenter (old timer), stuffing bat insulation around four windows with a 6" taping knife. He was cramming as much in there as he could. I asked why he didn't use door and window spray foam. He said that it will bow the frame and that he didn't want to have to come back and clean it up. We just shook our heads and went on.

Last winter I saw two guys take two weeks to install 26 kitchen cabinets. They spent nearly 2 days on the first cabinet. Can you believe that they were a HD contractor?
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Last winter I saw two guys take two weeks to install 26 kitchen cabinets. They spent nearly 2 days on the first cabinet. Can you believe that they were a HD contractor?
I sure can
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Last winter I saw two guys take two weeks to install 26 kitchen cabinets. They spent nearly 2 days on the first cabinet. Can you believe that they were a HD contractor?
When you said HD contractor I'm surprised they did take the full 2 weeks on that first cabinet.....
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Arguing with the Boss is one of the ultimate "Silly Things" anyone can do.

I had a pretty good carpenter/helper working for me years back, always asking for a raise he was. I'd say, "If you need more money all you have to do is show up 5 days a week instead of your usual 4. That's how you can make more money working for me, 40 hours will earn you more. Until then, you obviously don't need or deserve a raise. My first rule of raises is attendance."

So he continued to get 4 days a week in and asking for a raise every payday too. "No. Attendance! "

After about four months of 4 day weeks he finally gets in a full week and as usual asks for a raise. I said no, he quit.

One other "silly thing" I think other "Framers" do is mark a solo single length 2/4 square, with a square, for cutting. If you're an experienced framer then you know how to cut that 2/4 square and on the mark without marking it square with your square.

i cut mine nested after marking it all the way around with my sq
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Fixed it for you
well..i meant they where everywhere but where i was
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I had a guy argue with me because he thought I should have bought a different kind of retaining wall blocks. He argued me blue in the face in front of the customer.

Needless to say I sent him home right there. Apologized to my client and finished the job myself on a Saturday. I asked him to do it so I could take my wife out. I fired him on the following Monday for that crap.

Another job a few weeks earlier, I had shown him a mistake in the framing. It was a built up beam in a garage. They had cut the end of it wrong in the pocket. The beam was over sized for the pocket and he made the exact same cut that they did. Pissed me off. Its one thing to make a mistake but after your told what it is and how to not make it? Should have fired him for that right there!
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Some guys waste their time watching other guys for faults. I've got my head down doing my job and I could care less what others are doing...
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Some guys waste their time watching other guys for faults. I've got my head down doing my job and I could care less what others are doing...
Maybe so....I learn from mistakes though, and I'd much ratheer learn from your mistakes than mine. So every once in awhile it's nice to stand back and "learn"
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It has been said that a smart man learns from his mistakes and a wise man learns from a smart mans mistakes.

That being said, I try to never judge others as I wouldn't want them judging me. That, and I don't get paid to judge.
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It has been said that a smart man learns from his mistakes and a wise man learns from a smart mans mistakes.

That being said, I try to never judge others as I wouldn't want them judging me. That, and I don't get paid to judge.
I do get paid to judgeSeems there rarely is a first place finisher I've been known to have pretty high standards though.
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Lately I've been saying to myself "take time to make time...take time to make time"
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Yesterday, one of my lead guys was bringing me a sheet of osb to hand up on the roof. He threw it down on the grass to move the ladder, he fiddled for several minutes getting the ladder set up ON the sheet of osb. I just waited for the look on his face when he realized what he had done. Priceless

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