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Old 04-27-2020, 04:14 PM   #1
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My buddy has an all-cement storage room just off his basement, underneath the porch on the front of the house. As soon as our governor allows me to feed my family again, we are to be building a bar in his basement.

I want to build a door-sized shelf for liquor/glassware, etc. that is on a track of some kind or another, with a hidden latch that releases the shelf and allows you to push it back into the storage room so you can access the room.

I plan to trim it out in such a way that it will be hard to detect the opening is there unless you know. Just a neat little hidden doorway feature I want to do for him because he's a good friend of mine.

Anybody every done anything like this? What kind of hardware am I looking for for the track system? Some kind of drawer slides mounted to rails anchored to the floor?
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Old 04-27-2020, 04:27 PM   #2
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Things like that are normally done with hefty-duty hinges. Is there a particular reason you're wanting to use tracks instead? IMO, a track setup would be a PITA to use.

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I had client with a nice one, and it was hinged and on casters behind the toe kick. The casing didn't move, so the shelving swung into place against the back of it. The toe kick separated at the corner miters, or something like that. It was pretty sweet, with lighting, too. It locked in place with pins in the sides of the shelving.

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The hinges are of course an option and would be easier, but it would also effectively cut off about a third of this storage area when it swings open. You'd have to come in and shut the shelf/door behind you in order to get anything to the right of the door. The storage area is not that deep, you see.

But yeah, hinges are one way. Sliding tracks would be cooler though. I think I'm going to make the latch attached to a hinged Maker's Mark bottle that you pull on to release it.

Is it possible to drill through the bottom of a glass bottle without cracking it up?
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I had client with a nice one, and it was hinged and on casters behind the toe kick. The casing didn't move, so the shelving swung into place against the back of it. The toe kick separated at the corner miters, or something like that. It was pretty sweet, with lighting, too. It locked in place with pins in the sides of the shelving.
If we end up going with door style on hinges, then that would be a pretty slick way to trim it out. You would literally never be able to tel it was there unless you knew.
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I have done several including one with Leo!

The only problem with the door going into the room is you lose space!
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I have done several including one with Leo!

The only problem with the door going into the room is you lose space!
Well now I'm thinking this thing should swing out! No sh!t, right? So....how to make the trim hide the seams if it swings out?

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The hinges are of course an option and would be easier, but it would also effectively cut off about a third of this storage area when it swings open. You'd have to come in and shut the shelf/door behind you in order to get anything to the right of the door. The storage area is not that deep, you see.

But yeah, hinges are one way. Sliding tracks would be cooler though. I think I'm going to make the latch attached to a hinged Maker's Mark bottle that you pull on to release it.

Is it possible to drill through the bottom of a glass bottle without cracking it up?
That space limitation makes it tough either way. Pocket door?

You can drill a bottle, but it's way slow and laborious. Plus, stress on those holes might crack them out after assembly. Think about glueing to the back side instead.

I'd love to see this happen, with pics and video.
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They make several different types of conceal pivot hinges I’m sure you could figure something out! But that wouldn’t be the panel with all the liquor since that adds a tremendous amount of weight!

Still looking for a picture of a mirror door to a safe room!
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I love the Coca-Cola design
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That space limitation makes it tough either way. Pocket door?



You can drill a bottle, but it's way slow and laborious. Plus, stress on those holes might crack them out after assembly. Think about glueing to the back side instead.



I'd love to see this happen, with pics and video.
Pocket door is a no go. The walls of this room are thick poured concrete, at least 9". No Bueno.
Gotta swing in or out.

I will get some pics sent tomorrow.

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Oh **** yeah man! Those are what I'm talking about! The coke fridge idea and the wardrobe are awesome!

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Thick concrete....maybe roll/slide it sideways behind a false wall (wide pocket).
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The top left in that picture is the one I used on a heavy mirror to cover the safe foom,Gave me about a three-quarter inch overlap it fits so tight you could turn the light on in the safe room and leave the lights off in the other room and you can’t tell!
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Outswing is way tougher to conceal well.

What interior style does the house have?
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Depending on how heavy it will be loaded up, if you want it to slide in, you may be best having the whole thing hanging off a couple of steel bars and using a ball bearing set up.
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