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Old 01-21-2012, 07:51 AM   #21
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I've seen many different ways people attach stringers, I can say I would not agree with some ways... But building hundreds if stairs and installing them, I always made sure the full back of the top stringer is fully rested against solid reinforced surface, and the bottom of the staircase stringer is also fully rested on sound solid surface and both ends properly anchored and secured preventing stairs from any movement. I don't believe notching top stringer and going under between the joist, or having the back of it hanging half way down or not fully seated on solid surface unsupported is wrong way of doing it .

Stringers are important structural part of any stairway and they should handle a much better load the min load requirement is... If I was a building inspector, I would flunked 100 of decks just because of the way stairs were build and attached... and I am not surprised why there is so many deck builders around, but not many out there who know how to layout and build stairs the right way.
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:15 PM   #22
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I always screwed through rim joist of the top platform into the riser. And possibly Simpson make a stringer tie-in braket I used before, but they're ugly so it has to be hidden.

Do it the way I said.
Sooooooo much better!!
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First set of stringers - always a milestone for a carpenter. Nice to have that under your belt . Congrats.
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It's a good feeling isn't it?

Keep that feeling alive and you will never work again.

Thanks for posting it. It has me feeling good too, mostly for you
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First, I had no idea there were so many ways to build stair and cut stringers. I was trying to find a way that explained how I do it. I was never "taught". I learned by reading and doing. I always use 2 x 12's. I know some use 2 x 10's and I've seen plenty, but there isn't enough stock left for my fat ass when the stringer is finally cut unless a 2 x 12 is used. Plus, I think code calls for over 3" of material to remain between the corner of the thread/riser and the back of the stringer when cut. I know some use LVL's too.

Anyway, below is the best that I could find that explains how I do it. Is this wrong? I like to build steps where the final step is the actual landing and not a bump-out of sorts to the final landing. I think the latter looks weird.

http://www.finehomebuilding.com/PDF/Free/021100054.pdf
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First, I had no idea there were so many was to build stair and cut stringers. I was trying to find a way that explained how I do it. I was never "taught". I learned by reading and doing. I always use 2 x 12's. I know some use 2 x 10's and I've seen plenty, but there isn't enough stock left for my fat ass when the stringer is finally cut unless a 2 x 12 is used. Plus, I think code calls for over 3" of material to remain between the corner of the thread/riser and the back of the stringer when cut. I know some use LVL's too.

Anyway, below is the best that I could find that explains how I do it. Is this wrong? I like to build steps where the final step is the actual landing and not a bump-out of sorts to the final landing. I think the latter looks weird.

http://www.finehomebuilding.com/PDF/Free/021100054.pdf
I prefer to hook under the box at the top of the stairs and if the joists are running perpendicular then I tie into the next joist as well.


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I prefer to hook under the box at the top of the stairs and if the joists are running perpendicular then I tie into the next joist as well.
I never did that, but it sounds like a more solid way to connect the stringers
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The nice thing about stringer is after cutting a few sets it becomes easy. Rafters too.
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I never did that, but it sounds like a more solid way to connect the stringers
I like it for the cleanliness of it all. The less is more concept.

Either works fine though.
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But Greg is talking about another way that I think is completely different for your, and my, way.
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But Greg is talking about another way that I think is completely different for your, and my, way.
I haven't seen a picture of what Greg is talking about. I did read the words but it didn't really explain much. Maybe I missed something?
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I haven't seen a picture of what Greg is talking about. I did read the words but it didn't really explain much. Maybe I missed something?

agreed. I'm waiting for him to clarify
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I gotta run, QFT (Quality Family Time)
But, I'm watching the post, because I'm confused.
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I prefer to hook under the box at the top of the stairs and if the joists are running perpendicular then I tie into the next joist as well.

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I understand that, but what's Greg talking about. Because his design seems different
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...I always made sure the full back of the top stringer is fully rested against solid reinforced surface, and the bottom of the staircase stringer is also fully rested on sound solid surface and both ends properly anchored and secured preventing stairs from any movement. I don't believe notching top stringer and going under between the joist, or having the back of it hanging half way down or not fully seated on solid surface unsupported is wrong way of doing it .
This is the part that has me confused.
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He might in part be talking about this situation.

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I do them the same as Wildwill. If the stringers are finished materials, like oak, that's the only way to do them and have the stringers finish cleanly into the ceiling.
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I remember my first set of stairs. I thought I learned the best kept secret. When I was doing piece work. Anyone could do wall, joists or truss roofs. Well anyone can wall bang. Joist should be easy but you can be surprised. Roof even truss can be challenging to a newb.

Stairs are the gig I went for. Never needed a dumb **** partner for this gig. Rolled solo.
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I prefer to hook under the box at the top of the stairs and if the joists are running perpendicular then I tie into the next joist as well.

Sometimes if not in all cases, the first tread of the stringer when coming off the deck must be notched around the rim joist and raised up to keep the same riser hight, which will create the the bottom point of the stringer under the first tread the weak point.
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