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Old 09-22-2016, 08:56 PM   #1
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I am building 3 wood screen doors, a single door and a double door.

Before I go an re-invent the wheel, are there any good sources of info on design and building? Any good material sources?

Specifically t-astrigals, weather stripping, sweeps, and jamb stops.
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Use really dry and smooth tight grain pine. Long dowels to keep it as dimensionally stable as possible or it will be "floppy" feeling.

I ordered a few wood screen/storm doors from a company in CO.
I forget their name. They always ran a constant ad in Fine Homebuilding.
You can get an idea of design and construction by checking out their catalog photos.

Astragal is very easy to make out of 5/4 on the table saw and then run a router down the edge for a little design.

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Darcy should have some good input...
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The doors will be 6/4 Utile Mahogany.

With the astrigal is there an easy way of sealing it for insects?

Vintage Door?

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Darcy should have some good input...
But procurement of the machinery he is going to belittle me for not having is not in the budget.
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The doors will be 6/4 Utile Mahogany.

With the astrigal is there an easy way of sealing it for insects?

Vintage Door?

Some good quality foam tape. Not too soft it will fall apart and not too hard that it won't compress.
It will also absorb the sound when it closes so as not to bang.
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CRT.

http://www.conservationtechnology.co...therseals.html

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The doors will be 6/4 Utile Mahogany.

With the astrigal is there an easy way of sealing it for insects?

Vintage Door?
I know Darcy usually uses Sapele (pretty much the same thing except I like Sipo) and was cutting the rail and stiles on his shaper. Now he would probably run a bunch of the parts on his sash sticker. He did a ton of them a few months back. If you don't have a shaper I've rabbeted out a tennon and mortise before on a table saw, not quite as good but works.

I know nothing about screen doors, our bugs down here break through the screens. But hey today it rained while it was sunny
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I will give you my two cents tomorrow. My girls birthday has worn me out.
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If so we share the day.

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Weather stripping on a screen door is almost worthless. Tried several sweep styles on bottoms, none anymore.

Most of the knobs (kind that latch) suck, even ones that are solid brass and run 75 bucks each.

I just started using my sash sticker for all the parts now, I use traditional M &T joints on all my screen doors.

I know guys who use floating tenons (same concept as the big domino) an urathane glues.

I make separate screen frames for mine.
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I use the CRT receiver and sweep. So far no issues with them.

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The doors will be 6/4 Utile Mahogany.

With the astrigal is there an easy way of sealing it for insects?

Vintage Door?
I've built a couple doubles. Used overlapping rabbets instead of an astragal. Kerfed the inside corner for RCT silibead. The RCT router makes the cut easy. You can also use a Pemko weatherstripping handsaw. It's technically designed for kerfing a jamb to accept interlock but I changed the tooth set on mine so it cuts about a 1/8" kerf for silibead.
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Decided to skip the weather stripping on the jamb. Undecided on the sweep and door to door.













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Thats some good looking work !

But i smell a festool add in your future
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But i smell a festool add in your future
The XL? If I do more doors it will be the first purchase, second will be a better (and larger) drum sander.
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The XL? If I do more doors it will be the first purchase, second will be a better (and larger) drum sander.
Any worry about warpage? I see lots of solid sash mahogany doors warp to crap.
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Any worry about warpage? I see lots of solid sash mahogany doors warp to crap.
Never had a screen door warp yet, but I am picky about the lumber I choose.

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