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Old 06-24-2015, 12:50 AM   #1
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I've been asked to do the trim work on a log house.(interior and exterior- including weather sealing the windows) I have rarely worked on log houses where I have to compensate for building shrinkage. Any tips or suggestions? Especially with sealing around the windows.
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Get really good with your chisels.

It has been years and I can't for the life of me remember how we flashed the exterior. Interior we took a Skilsaw and made our edge cuts, then used our chisels to cut the notch. The top notch was about two inches higher than the top of the trim to allow for settling.

Of course this was 15-20 years ago, and things may have changed. IIRC, we set the windows in bucks and left the same gap at the top as well. In those days we just used insulation for sealing the gap. I sure wish I could remember the exterior detailing.

Geez, how time flies. I remember those days like it was yesterday, minus the flashing detail. One of my favorite times in the trades.

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What kind of log? If round in and out then you are going to get acquainted with your chisel. I have seen some of the large log cabins trim jobs and they weren't pretty. They actually had the head casings inside made to slide when the cabin was shrinking, of course they also had blocking under the stairs for the homeowner to remove annually as the place shrunk. The bucks need to be slotted where they are attached to the logs to allow for shrinkage. Good luck.
As far as flashing, not much you can do except caulk. One of the reasons most log homes have large overhangs, the help protect the corners and keep rain away from the walls to resist rotting.
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Since this is the log home sealing discussion now. Anyone like a specific kind of chinking? House has D style logs. Round to outside. Flat to inside. Thoughts welcomed on chinking this thing.

Yes it's my personal house but there's not enough log homes in Oklahoma for me to have ever worked on one lol
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This one is round inside and out and the GC wants a top trim board that slides/telescopes over the side pieces. I haven't taken a good look at the window installation detail yet. I'll try to post more next week when I get working on it.
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Post pics, plans if you can. I am very interested in how this project proceeds. I'll be watching with keen interest.

We never chinked ours. They were all scribed. Not by me, I was more often than not drilling logs and getting thrown around by the HoleHawgs. And chiseling, and chiseling, and chiseling...
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Since this is the log home sealing discussion now. Anyone like a specific kind of chinking? House has D style logs. Round to outside. Flat to inside. Thoughts welcomed on chinking this thing.

Yes it's my personal house but there's not enough log homes in Oklahoma for me to have ever worked on one lol

We use permachink. Stays flexible and moves with the logs.


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Any Log Home Builders out there?-67.jpg

sorry folks, this job got delayed. I'm finally back at it. this is what I have to deal with.
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here's the solution we came up with.

They are going to run a bead of chinking on the joint between trim and log.
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The solution you have looks good. Is that on the second story? You have a wood stud frame with log siding, not an actual log frame. I did some repair work on a log cabin once with the windows and trim already in. They had 1x4 trim on the outside of the logs. I had to fill in all the cavities with massive caulking. In the process I found a lot of bats taking naps in all those cavities behind the trim.

How are you finishing these? I remember I did some experimenting with sand sealer and spar varnish, sometimes combining the two to get the look I wanted.
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For settling reasons you nail the trim to the window casing and not the log.
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Don`t think you need chinking ,but i would use Log Builder from Sashco as caulking .
There are several tips that you will learn a long the way .
I`m a Log builder and have years of building them .
Every one I learn new ways and not all are the same .
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A guy definitely has to be creative to make it work.
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The solution you have looks good. Is that on the second story? You have a wood stud frame with log siding, not an actual log frame. I did some repair work on a log cabin once with the windows and trim already in. They had 1x4 trim on the outside of the logs. I had to fill in all the cavities with massive caulking. In the process I found a lot of bats taking naps in all those cavities behind the trim.

How are you finishing these? I remember I did some experimenting with sand sealer and spar varnish, sometimes combining the two to get the look I wanted.
This is actual log frame. The window bucks are recessed into a track cut into the end of the logs so the logs can settle and not affect the window buck.

I'm not the one doing the finishing. I just do the trim work.
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if you're doing that framing around the windows you can use this product; http://www.emseal.com/Products/Speci...omeSummary.htm

I'm using this on a house that was built by pioneer log homes, this is was they use as well.
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We use permachink. Stays flexible and moves with the logs.


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My dad is looking at purchasing a small log home that is unfinished.
The deal should be done this week if all goes as planed.
The house is unfinished and my crew will be finishing it.
He will only be using it as a cottage with the intent to retire there in a few years.
I will post up some pics and likely be asking a tonne of questions on this project.

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