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Old 08-07-2019, 07:52 PM   #1
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Amateur Night: What's The Best Wood For Building A Fence?


I imagine redwood heartwood but would you also want it pressure treated or is that overkill? Would you use the same wood also for the posts and kickers? I want to build the most long-lasting fence that I can with the best possible materials. Any help appreciated. My first fencing project.
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I imagine redwood heartwood but would you also want it pressure treated or is that overkill? Would you use the same wood also for the posts and kickers? I want to build the most long-lasting fence that I can with the best possible materials. Any help appreciated. My first fencing project.
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No matter the cost?
Wooden. And within reason. What's the top-shelf that most non-billionaires would purchase?
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Wooden. And within reason. What's the top-shelf that most non-billionaires would purchase?
Therein lies the rub... what do you consider reasonable? I'm not trying to dodge your question, but you have to define your budget before you can determine the materials... it's an exercise in futility to come up with the best materials if they're not in the budget...

Is this for you or a customer? Because that's also a consideration as you as a contractor can get the materials for less so it gives you a little more flexibility in material choices depending on the budget...

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Go Vinyl,

Install is way easier and and not needing maintenance over the years pays back huge
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Black Locust.

Then Clear Heart Redwood, with a tight grain pattern. Salvaged Old Growth if you can get it, older, tight Second Growth if you can't.

Then Ground Contact Rated PT. Douglas Fir.





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Re: Amateur Night: What's The Best Wood For Building A Fence?


Forgot about Western Juniper.

Probably as good as Black Locust.

Location is going to matter a lot. I'm on the West Coast, so just shipping Black Locust out here is gonna put it price-wise up there with salvaged OG Redwood.
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4x6 posts on 6' centers.

soaked in and repainted with woodlife copper.

2x4 PT rails. re-painted with woodlife copper.

full 4/4 x 6' cedar fence boards.

Redwood if you can get it & afford it.

All fasteners are stainless steel.

the one at my house on the coast is 28 years old and just recently is in need of minor repair.

not cheap but you asked....
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.40 or.60 ACQ. DF I had that stuff buried in the mud under my AC condenser (4x6) for 9 years and barely showed any signs of rot. It was constantly wet from irrigation year round as well.


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Re: Amateur Night: What's The Best Wood For Building A Fence?


50 year woods include black locust, Osage orange, Pacific yew. Heartwood only.

Constructively, those are post materials and tough to come by most places.

Old growth of some woods can approach that performance, especially redwood.

Imports like purpleheart can give you the best performance.

When you start factoring in workability, stability, availability, I'd go with black locust for the posts and old growth redwood for the rest. Fastening boards to hardwood backers isn't something that would be much fun.
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Help us visualize. Whereabouts? What's the climate and soil type?
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Lineal footage of fence?

Value of house?

Depth of pockets?




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i am west coast . did a seven foot recently .used 4x4 treated[below ground treatment] .should of used 4x6 for that height . shorter fence can handle 4x4 without wiggle .screws i believe are better then gun nailing . we use redwood for the face boards .
make sure post go in the ground . close to 3'. i only go close to 3 because thats as far as i can get with my demo hammer .clay out here is seriously hard . clean out the loose stuff [if you have any] from those holes before post and concrete go in .a shop vac will do this .
i tend to believe it is good to toss gravel in the bottom of hole so water can drain out of post . with this new treated maybe not an issue .it was what i was taught and maybe just putting the post against the dirt/bottom of the hole is fine .
So what lumber can you get where you are .Methods change with areas .
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Methods change with areas .
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Re: Amateur Night: What's The Best Wood For Building A Fence?


Not the most durable choice, but I always wanted to use post oak posts. That's how post oak got it's name.

One of the white oaks, so it has good decay resistance.
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Concrete or metal posts. Ipe fencing.
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To keep from rotting and rusting we use a schedule 40 square tubing for the post. In come with holes in it so the water drains out. 2x4s screws to the sides and fence builds off of that. No wood in the ground here.
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Hat channel metal posts set in concrete. Then redwood or cedar 2x4 rails, and pickets. You can put a single picket on the backside of each post to hide the metal.


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Ipe would last forever but it's a bitch fastening anything to it. You could get b-grade ipe cheaper then you could old growth redwood. B grade cumaru or massaranduba is even less expensive and looks a lot like ipe and performs almost as well.

Personally, I like white oak and it's as good as anything domestic outside. With a stain it's going to last years and years. Getting ready to do one, horizontal 4/4x6 and 4/4 ◊4 or 4/4◊4 and 4/4◊2 depending what they like more. It was going to either be oak or sapele and they chose the oak because of the contrast with the Ipe deck it abuts. Going to be cool.

If you're in the south, cypress is your best bet for longevity vs cost. Cypress lasts a long time outside especially if its stained. I supplied all the lumber for a treetop park in cypress and it's about 30,000 bd ft outside in Florida for the past 8 years and it's still going strong.
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PVC. HDPE. unless you donít live underwater in Charleston like Iím working with.


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