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Old 06-10-2013, 10:49 AM   #1
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When I'm forced to finish trim, I used to spray nitro lacquer But wanted to give water based a try on an upcoming trim project. Anyone have any recommendation or tips for spraying with an airless?

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I use Target Coatings. I am happy with the product.
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Yeah, spray it light. It will run on you if it is too heavy. Even the slightest bit heavy will run. I tried some a few years ago, it leaves a nice finish, but it was difficult for me to spray. Took longer to dry as well.
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Targets EM7000 high build lacquer you can spray pretty heavy. I Spray as much as i can flat though so dont have a ton of input on the sags. I notice the first coat dries alot slower than the second. But still usually coatable in 30-45 mins.
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You really do notice the extra recoat time especially when you want to do both sides of a door.
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I've never sprayed WB with an airless but someone told me they use a fine finish tip with pretty good results, not furnature quality but better than a brush or roller.

We use Target and Sherwin Williams Kem Aqua.
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Spraying wb lacquer with an airless will prove difficult. Microfoaming occurs easily at high pressure, and you will most likely witness it.
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I have always used fine finish tips for nitro lacquer. Sounds like WB will be a learning curve

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ML, If you're just spraying trim onsite, you may want to look into an inexpensive HVPL turbine and gun. Using a airless could be a pain not to mention the amount of material you would be waisting because of the hose. I've never tried but you may even get a pretty good finish with a good quality airless cup gun. I'm not sure what you call them but Wagner Power Painter comes to mind.

I was "forced" (kicking and screaming) to go with the new cutting edge WB finishes when I turn my "hobbie shop" into a professional shop. I also thought the learning curve would be a painful one. However I personally think once you learn how the WB finishes work, I find I like working with them better than solvent finishes.

The reason I was forced to go WB is I didn't have a compliant spray booth or even a system in place to even come close to being compliant. OSHA, EPA, Fire Marshal and the tons of recordkeeping required was going to take a lot of money so going "green" was going to be the only reasonable way to continue doing our own finishing. At the end of the day, I have no regrets getting away from the high VOC finishes.
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I got an asturo gun with a pressure pot. Run off my little compressor. Its a low CFM gun so you can run it on about anything. I think i got the pot, gun and 3 nozzles for $400. Has HTE and HVLP air caps.
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I have used both of these and they both work great...I keep the EM7000 around and use it as my standard finish.

http://www.targetcoatings.com/produc...n-lacquer.html

http://www.targetcoatings.com/produc...d-lacquer.html

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Just as an edit, I am thinking about moving to EM8000 Conversion Varnish as a standard finish now...it has a very nice feel to it when its dry...supposed to be more chemical and water resistant as well.
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Just as an edit, I am thinking about moving to EM8000 Conversion Varnish as a standard finish now...it has a very nice feel to it when its dry...supposed to be more chemical and water resistant as well.
I really like the Target products, especially the CV. Seems very durable and has a nicer "glow" for a water borne.

However, last week I decided to check out the M.L. Campbell Aqualente that our local Wurth store. I think it's my favorite of the month. I tinted it with a touch of yellow and raw umber (universal tint) to give it a little "glow" to the unstained soft maple.

So far I've tried Crysalac (horrible product, never again) Both Target EM6000 and EM8000 CV are very good but find the CV a little unforgiving for those of use that aren't great at spraying. I don't like that you can't purchase from a brick and mortar store. I like the SW Kem Aqua, very similar to the M.L. Campbell. Both can be purchased locally.

Next on my list to try is General Finishes Enduro. It's looks a little pricey about $50 gal

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