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Unread 06-30-2020, 02:16 PM   #21
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We went to the coast last weekend and Lincoln county is very worried about tourists.

Some of you might recognize them as being the idiots that mandated masks, except for people who didnít want to be racially profiled. They walked it back a week later.

We stopped at the hardware store to buy some camping supplies, and they had a sign stating they want you to wear a mask and they sold them.

I bought one and wore it in deference to the store owners. My first time wearing the stupid things.


I did end up ordering some filters for my 3M half mask. I can comfortably wear that all day.

It kind of defeats the purpose, with no filtered exhaust, but it satisfies the placebo requirements of the state of Oregon.

So I guess when itís required, Iíll wear a real respirator that filters in reality.

I donít believe in the efficacy of face coverings, but the Sheeple around here feel better if our mugs are covered.





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Besides the glasses getting fogged up (which is fixable with anti fog wipes) what's the resistance to wearing the mask when close to people indoors? It's the one thing that actually works to keep you and those around you from getting Covid.
Not unless you're also wearing eye protection...

THE one thing is hygiene....
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The mask thing doesn't bother me the way bothers other people. I have worn one in busy places since this started because it makes people feel more comfortable. No idea if it works or not, just font want done 70 year old grandma to look at me with fear because I'm not wearing one in a confined space

It become ordinance yesterday here. Chits like wild fire here, I know atleast 10 currently sick, one a close friend who is a builder in his early 40s. Strong, healthy, tough as nails, currently on day 8 with no food, was not coherent for 5 days, still in really bad shape.

An old timer recovered from it we both know a couple weeks ago, he didn't get as bad. I am sure he'll pull through, if not I hope his wife doesn't read his phone. Last text I sent was "you know if that old Horris can pull through well never let you live it down if you don't" i didnt think he'd get as bad as he is

The arbitrary closings/openings, essential/non essential is my issue

Death percentage is still down from what it was from CDC

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My issue with the masks is I wonder if it causes people to touch their face more, seems like people are always adjusting the mask. I think it should be left up to individual businesses

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I wear one in the stores, and in customer's homes. That's about it.

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My issue with the masks is I wonder if it causes people to touch their face more, seems like people are always adjusting the mask. I think it should be left up to individual businesses

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Of course it does.

The surgical masks people are wearing are good for about 20 minutes and then should be changed out. They are designed to be worn in a sterile environment. Breathing out contaminates the mask with whatever the body is exhaling. You have germs that the body sheds and now they are in the mask and you can inhale them back in, over and over again. Wearing a mask like that all day is not healthy. Wearing a mask to do a task and then removing it is how they are designed. If you need to wear a filtration device all day long you need a professional mask that has an exhale valve and right there that defeats the purpose they claim the mask has.

The covid virus is .06-.185 microns while the best masks filter out .3 microns. It's not going to do very much against a virus, which is why if you look on the box it says it won't protect you from viruses. If you are wearing a hand made cloth mask you are truly kidding yourself.
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The covid virus is .06-.185 microns while the best masks filter out .3 microns. It's not going to do very much against a virus, which is why if you look on the box it says it won't protect you from viruses. If you are wearing a hand made cloth mask you are truly kidding yourself.
Nope. That's not how it works.
Covid virus is spread through the droplets of moisture that come out of your mouth. The droplets tend to float about six feet before gravity and dispersion bring them to the ground. Less outdoors, more indoors. The actual virus itself is tiny, but the droplets it is attached to are big enough to be blocked by the mask.
Covid19 tends to show few symptoms at first and that's when it's also very contagious. The mask isn't meant to filter out every virus particle. It's meant to reduce your droplets and intercept others. Even a bandana will greatly reduce the droplets you emit.
Also, your body can fight off a few virus particles at a time. A mask will definitely reduce the number coming in to an amount your body can handle. No mask and your viral load overwhelms your immune systems' ability to resist the virus.
Washing your hands is still a good idea, but the main transmission vector is airborne droplets.
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I know I'm tired of these so-called experts everyday...do this, no, don't do that....

I quit paying attention to what they were saying loooong ago.
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I know I'm tired of these so-called experts everyday...do this, no, don't do that....

I quit paying attention to what they were saying loooong ago.
I agree, to some extent. I do know that our health care professionals have been wearing masks for 100 years, so for those that say they do absolutely nothing...........

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Nope. That's not how it works.
Covid virus is spread through the droplets of moisture that come out of your mouth. The droplets tend to float about six feet before gravity and dispersion bring them to the ground. Less outdoors, more indoors. The actual virus itself is tiny, but the droplets it is attached to are big enough to be blocked by the mask.
Covid19 tends to show few symptoms at first and that's when it's also very contagious. The mask isn't meant to filter out every virus particle. It's meant to reduce your droplets and intercept others. Even a bandana will greatly reduce the droplets you emit.
Also, your body can fight off a few virus particles at a time. A mask will definitely reduce the number coming in to an amount your body can handle. No mask and your viral load overwhelms your immune systems' ability to resist the virus.
Washing your hands is still a good idea, but the main transmission vector is airborne droplets.
If masks worked then all the prisoners could wear them and we wouldn't have to release them. If masks worked we could all be in work now, there would be no need to shut anything down. Says right on the mask package not for viruses.

Masks are ineffective against any virus. If they worked the people in virus research could wear those instead of a space suit.

And cloth masks are just laughable. ZERO protection.
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I agree, to some extent. I do know that our health care professionals have been wearing masks for 100 years, so for those that say they do absolutely nothing...........

Surgeons wear masks so they don't get spittle in the open wounds of their patients because there are germs in spittle. Masks protect against germs because they are large enough to be blocked. If there was an operation and a virus situation they'd be wearing virus hazmat suits.

If this was as bad as they say you wouldn't be allowed to toss your mask willy nilly in the trash. You'd have to place them in biohazard waste disposal bins.

Everyone in China wears masks, yet they still keep getting these viruses. Masks don't work for viruses.
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The mask thing doesn't bother me the way bothers other people. I have worn one in busy places since this started because it makes people feel more comfortable. No idea if it works or not, just font want done 70 year old grandma to look at me with fear because I'm not wearing one in a confined space

It become ordinance yesterday here. Chits like wild fire here, I know atleast 10 currently sick, one a close friend who is a builder in his early 40s. Strong, healthy, tough as nails, currently on day 8 with no food, was not coherent for 5 days, still in really bad shape.

An old timer recovered from it we both know a couple weeks ago, he didn't get as bad. I am sure he'll pull through, if not I hope his wife doesn't read his phone. Last text I sent was "you know if that old Horris can pull through well never let you live it down if you don't" i didnt think he'd get as bad as he is

The arbitrary closings/openings, essential/non essential is my issue

Death percentage is still down from what it was from CDC

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My son in law is a surgeon in Arizona and one of the smartest people I know. He had actually made some of his own masks when they were scarce. He and pretty much every medical professional advises the public to wear them.

I am not saying they are infallible, but they certainly will provide some protection and will cause zero harm
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Nope. That's not how it works.
Covid virus is spread through the droplets of moisture that come out of your mouth. The droplets tend to float about six feet before gravity and dispersion bring them to the ground. Less outdoors, more indoors. The actual virus itself is tiny, but the droplets it is attached to are big enough to be blocked by the mask.
Covid19 tends to show few symptoms at first and that's when it's also very contagious. The mask isn't meant to filter out every virus particle. It's meant to reduce your droplets and intercept others. Even a bandana will greatly reduce the droplets you emit.
Also, your body can fight off a few virus particles at a time. A mask will definitely reduce the number coming in to an amount your body can handle. No mask and your viral load overwhelms your immune systems' ability to resist the virus.
Washing your hands is still a good idea, but the main transmission vector is airborne droplets.
Worth repeating.
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Until we get through this, I have no problem wearing one in the stores and among clients (to catch my exhaled droplets, etc.) I wear it loosely, and my reading glasses over the top edge of it to prevent fogging. No biggie.

Dr Scott Gottlieb is pretty solid. I recommend catching his daily morning comments on CNBC.
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It's literally the least you can do, and it absolutely is effective at stopping the spread of some airborne droplets.

It's annoying and it's eyerolling and whatever, but just do it until the data is coming in that the ER's are not going to be overwhelmed. We did it here in NJ and it wasn't that bad. It's annoying, but deal with it and it'll be over soon.
You guys down south and out west talking tough are gonna see it soon enough, and if you're really truly short of breath like some of these patients around here got, you'd do anything do go back in time and wear the stupid mask.

It's annoying, it's frustrating, it gets sweaty, but whatever dude. You're a man, you can take it.

I went online and got a 20 pack of 100% cotton bandanas. You get to color coordinate with your other family members. They really never get hot and they're doing more than nothing.
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Thanks. I have a friend who works in bio research. He was telling me all about this back in January. I had a socially distanced beer with him the other night and got caught up on what's going on.
Covid19 is so new that they didn't really know a lot of things for sure when it started. They assumed it would be like a lot of other viruses and spread the same way. Now that it's been around for a bit they're getting to understand it better.
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Besides the glasses getting fogged up (which is fixable with anti fog wipes) what's the resistance to wearing the mask when close to people indoors? It's the one thing that actually works to keep you and those around you from getting Covid.
You got any proof of that?
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This what I will be using tomorrow. Bought to to give to a helper, but now I'm using one for keeping cool and the other for covering up. Not perfect, but it will work for now.

I would wear Trump ones, but being in business in town, it isn't worth causing a stir. Most would love it, but a few of my customers might be a bit taken aback. Even most of them though, know I'm a Trump guy. I just don't fly my freak flag.

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