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Old 05-04-2015, 07:42 PM   #1
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What your take on intersection panhandlers? It seems they're almost never looking for work or to better their situation, but instead just to get the handouts and that's about it. I see the same folks almost forever. Am I being too callous?
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:03 PM   #2
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My partner comes from Pa so he sees them most mornings. If he has some drink left, or extra food he will give them that,

When Wawa does the 2 for sizzli deal he will get the second sandwich and give it to them.

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My partner comes from Pa so he sees them most mornings. If he has some drink left, or extra food he will give them that,

When Wawa does the 2 for sizzli deal he will get the second sandwich and give it to them.
While it's a free country, I now think it's mostly a sucker's game. They play the part ("acting", in a way.....or milking it with downtrodden sadness) and then get a return/hour. I see folks handing out 5-spots and I'm like wth? I am referring to the long-timer/regulars, many of which look to be in their prime and able-bodied.
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There are some genuine people that need help.

Problem is figuring out who it is....

Been watching a guy & his dog, automatic soft spot....

Thought about flipping him some bucks until I saw his significant other pull up on the other side of the bushes, in a Beamer & bring him lunch....

OTOH, last Christmas season I watch a gal at the local Safeway store parking lot entrance. Thought she was a fake until I watched her come out of the bushes at the homeless camp a few mornings....
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If you have two hands and two feet and a pair shoes you don't need a hand out you need a job.

Crazy people on the other need help, but half the time you give them money they throw it away or otherwise fail to use it.
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There have been a few newspaper articles here in the last few years. Many of these folks routinely make $100 a day doing this. During the holiday season, that usually doubles. I am unable to tell the posers from the real deal, so my money goes to worthy causes that I am very familiar with.
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I chat with anyone I pull up next to, hand out cliff bars and gloves in the winter. Sometimes I add a dollar or two.

Some people don't want to work, some can't.

Everyone should be careful jumping to conclusions about who is on the street and why they are there.

Edit: in general, not in this thread. There are a lot of assumptions made about the homeless.

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There have been a few newspaper articles here in the last few years. Many of these folks routinely make $100 a day doing this. During the holiday season, that usually doubles. I am unable to tell the posers from the real deal, so my money goes to worthy causes that I am very familiar with.
Able-bodied "posers"... exactly what I think I'm seeing. On the other hand, if they're obviously handicapped or very elderly, another story.

(I think the "homeless veteran" card is mostly b.s., too...I hope I'm right...)
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There was a story on the Tulsa news about panhandlers that would travel to Tulsa to 'work', because the people were on average, more generous...

Some were making like 60-70K
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Able-bodied "posers"... exactly what I think I'm seeing. On the other hand, if they're obviously handicapped or very elderly, another story.



(I think the "homeless veteran" card is mostly b.s., too...I hope I'm right...)

Ask them, find out what happened. They'll probably tell you.
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Some people don't want to work, some can't.

Everyone should be careful jumping to conclusions about who is on the street and why they are there.
True, but there are government resources all over the place. Besides that, it seems to take extra smarts to seek a good corner.....the same smarts that could take you to the home depot parking lot to get a day's worth of labor for some cash.
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Ask them, find out what happened. They'll probably tell you.
Done it a few times. My B.S. detector goes off.

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True, but there are government resources all over the place. Besides that, it seems to take extra smarts to seek a good corner.....the same smarts that could take you to the home depot parking lot to get a day's worth of labor for some cash.

Well there are street corners everywhere and all you need is a piece of trash and a marker to get started.

But I don't disagree about government resources, though they're poorly applied to the problem as a whole. It would be cheaper to give out free housing than fund the various programs to which the homeless have access.
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Because they don't have a permanent address a lot of homeless people can't do much better than picking up work in a box store parking lot.

But panhandling is guaranteed money and maybe food. It's a smarter investment of your time if you're living day to day.

(And also if you just don't want to work)
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Done it a few times. My B.S. detector goes off.

There is a lot of BS out there. Don't get me wrong, some people are out there by choice, I definitely see that.
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These days it's impossible to tell. It's a "lifestyle," quotations used because I don't think it's a "lifestyle," I think it's ***king lazy. I know a good handful of people who have done awesome stuff; ride their bike or trains across the country, live and survive on as little as possible in order to get to and experience the next bit of the country, but I've seen a lot of people take advantage of it. A few of these folks, despite having access to a ton of resources, just wave signs and wait until someone goes "Awww, homeless. Here!" I've invited friends to crash who were returning home for a few days, all they and their companions talked about was where they could go that was hospitable them flying signs. It makes me kinda sick.

With that said, the crackheads outside the bar and the "traveler kids" have ruined giving someone in need a dollar for me. I don't give anyone anything. I'll usually try to give someone the extra gloves from my truck before I give them a dollar (and I've had dozens of people let me know they don't want my gloves).
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Been watching the same guys for literally years and years now.

They'll never get a cent from me. Might get a smile if the weather is nice.
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Had a local news story here recently about this, seems some of the citizens were getting aggravated because they would watch them finish begging for the day and walk a block to get into their very nice car and drive away. I don't give to any of them, no way to tell who is in need and who isn't.

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