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RangoWA 05-02-2015 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by m1911 (Post 2934218)
They have these modern places called doctors offices... :laughing:

Sissy!

madrina 05-02-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by m1911 (Post 2934202)
What an idiot!

Let me show you how to shoot a 16d into your knee, and the proper way to pull it out... :laughing:

Hey I already gave the demo on this!

overanalyze 05-02-2015 10:58 AM

I was told by a doc that glass is the only thing your body won't reject. Eventually all other splinters work themselves out. I like to let mine fester for a few days and then squeeze like hell to watch them shoot out with the puss!

EthanB 05-02-2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by overanalyze (Post 2934530)
I was told by a doc that glass is the only thing your body won't reject. Eventually all other splinters work themselves out. I like to let mine fester for a few days and then squeeze like hell to watch them shoot out with the puss!

I have hard lumps in the meat of my hand that say your doc was wrong. I got a nasty PT splinter, about the size of a #2 pencil, that went in at the base of my thumb and came out the back of my hand near my index finger knuckle. I pulled it out but it left several smaller pieces behind. The doc said that my body would either encapsulate the pieces in scar tissue or they would have to open it up and pull them out. They put me on a heavy duty antibiotic and we waited it out. Luckily, they scarred and it now feels like there are several pellets in there.

overanalyze 05-02-2015 12:10 PM

Wow! That sounds like fun Ethan! Sounds like docs are like contractors...varying opinions. ..lol.

Diamond D. 05-02-2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jb4211 (Post 2934130)

Thanks for the laughs. "You can really see the blood pouring out now" :laughing::laughing:

D.

Youngin' 05-02-2015 12:17 PM

I'm pretty sure I've got a splinter deep in my thumb from a few years back. I handed the boss an LVL and a chunk went through the center of my thumb and out the side. I pulled it right through and I thought I had pulled all of it out but now due to the weird scarring I doubt it. Oh well, my medical friends have asked me to be a guinea pig before, maybe they'll want to try opening it up and digging it out.

CarpenterSFO 05-02-2015 01:07 PM

Designers who design dazzling kitchens and baths that are inappropriate for the homeowners, their families, and the home, and that can't be built for less than 2X the budget. I will deliver the budget news; the owner will pick another contractor who tells them what they want to hear; after "surprises" the project will be built for 2X to 3X the budget; and I will be remembered as the guy who wanted too much money. I feel better now.

VinylHanger 05-02-2015 01:34 PM

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That seems to be the way. You work hard to design a bath or kitchen that fits the budget and then it turns out they have more money for the fun stuff. Meanwhile, you have scrimped on your end to make it work. This is why I do most of my remodels now on an hourly basis. Not as much mark up, but if they decide to add a unicorn and some rainbows, I get paid for installing them and it usually takes longer.

blacktop 05-02-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CarpenterSFO (Post 2935034)
Designers who design dazzling kitchens and baths that are inappropriate for the homeowners, their families, and the home, and that can't be built for less than 2X the budget. I will deliver the budget news; the owner will pick another contractor who tells them what they want to hear; after "surprises" the project will be built for 2X to 3X the budget; and I will be remembered as the guy who wanted too much money. I feel better now.

I've worked on a few of those. Recently I did a 600 sqf addition/kitchen reno. The homeowner hired a designer..When all they really needed was a good G/C that could have drawn the plans up on a 2x4..It was just your run of the mill add on with some repairs in the kitchen..Nothing fancy!

Money was no issue for the H/O..But it seemed to me they wasted Money when they didn't have to.

hdavis 05-02-2015 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CarpenterSFO (Post 2935034)
I feel better now.

No you don't.:sad:

Creter 05-02-2015 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CarpenterSFO (Post 2935034)
Designers who design dazzling kitchens and baths that are inappropriate for the homeowners, their families, and the home, and that can't be built for less than 2X the budget. I will deliver the budget news; the owner will pick another contractor who tells them what they want to hear; after "surprises" the project will be built for 2X to 3X the budget; and I will be remembered as the guy who wanted too much money. I feel better now.

Well said. It is funny how people hear what they want to hear.

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Originally Posted by VinylHanger (Post 2935162)
That seems to be the way. You work hard to design a bath or kitchen that fits the budget and then it turns out they have more money for the fun stuff. Meanwhile, you have scrimped on your end to make it work. This is why I do most of my remodels now on an hourly basis. Not as much mark up, but if they decide to add a unicorn and some rainbows, I get paid for installing them and it usually takes longer.

Is that not the truth? Wrapping up a kitchen and a bathroom that is exactly the same as you said. The money for the rainbows and unicorns (I like that and will use that in future conversation if I may) just keeps popping up.

hdavis 05-02-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CarpenterSFO (Post 2935034)
Designers who design dazzling kitchens and baths that are inappropriate for the homeowners, their families, and the home, and that can't be built for less than 2X the budget. I will deliver the budget news; the owner will pick another contractor who tells them what they want to hear; after "surprises" the project will be built for 2X to 3X the budget; and I will be remembered as the guy who wanted too much money. I feel better now.

Even if you laid this out as a pitfall to HOs, they'd still do it. They'd be better off buying a lottery ticket - at least there would be a chance their hopes would come true for the nominal cost.

CarpenterSFO 05-02-2015 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blacktop (Post 2935266)
I've worked on a few of those. Recently I did a 600 sqf addition/kitchen reno. The homeowner hired a designer..When all they really needed was a good G/C that could have drawn the plans up on a 2x4..It was just your run of the mill add on with some repairs in the kitchen..Nothing fancy!

Money was no issue for the H/O..But it seemed to me they wasted Money when they didn't have to.

I now rarely trust homeowners' budget statements, but in this case I do, and I did propose something that was in their budget and appropriate for them and their house. They have a beautiful but not fancy home, an over-busy family life, along with some health and mobility issues, and the designer has moved walls and all the MEP, in order to include her signature glass bath and shower room. It is just wrong, but I had my ideas, which they did not like, and I am now going to keep my mouth shut and be efficient about bidding the designer's ideas.

And, it includes all sorts of impossibilities - a specific model of alcove tub, with 3 sides exposed; a frameless glass shower door hinged onto a 3-inch strip of glass that is attached only to the floor.

I'd say that I feel better now, again, but psychologists have established fairly clearly that catharsis, of which ranting is a flavor, is not good for you.

So, I feel worse now. In order to feel better I'm going to go post something on the things I love thread.

m1911 05-02-2015 02:51 PM

Sweeping the yard

dom-mas 05-02-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EthanB (Post 2934738)
I have hard lumps in the meat of my hand that say your doc was wrong. I got a nasty PT splinter, about the size of a #2 pencil, that went in at the base of my thumb and came out the back of my hand near my index finger knuckle. I pulled it out but it left several smaller pieces behind. The doc said that my body would either encapsulate the pieces in scar tissue or they would have to open it up and pull them out. They put me on a heavy duty antibiotic and we waited it out. Luckily, they scarred and it now feels like there are several pellets in there.

I have a chunk of pencil lead in my hand from when i was bowling as a kid and some other kid stabbed my hand with those tiny little bowing lane pencils. I broke it off and it's still in there, I can still see the black dot

CarpenterSFO 05-02-2015 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dom-mas (Post 2936066)
I have a chunk of pencil lead in my hand from when i was bowling as a kid and some other kid stabbed my hand with those tiny little bowing lane pencils. I broke it off and it's still in there, I can still see the black dot

I busted a pencil lead off in the middle of my right palm about 45 years ago, and it's still there.

mnld 05-02-2015 05:55 PM

My dad has had a pencil lead in his hand for 68 years. Real lead.

m1911 05-02-2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CarpenterSFO (Post 2936082)
I busted a pencil lead off in the middle of my right palm about 45 years ago, and it's still there.

I've got it in the same place...:laughing:

m1911 05-02-2015 06:53 PM

Some gal was trying to read my palm once and said I have a long lifeline, but I had to explain to her that was a scar from the the time I sliced my palm open and had a dozen stitches... :)


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