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Old 12-15-2012, 06:18 PM   #181
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Less than 150 years ago we killed 625,000 of each other on this very soil. Less than 100 years before that we won out independence in an extremely bloody war. So there was also a time when the nation was exponentially more violent than it is now.
C'mon, let's keep it in context, eh?
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C'mon, let's keep it in context, eh?
It's well within the scope of the discussion. Humans are violent and they always have been. Most people live in a bubble. The only way they ever see real violence is when breaking news interrupts sports center or American idol, then, because they are powerless and quite often just part of the scenery, they lash out on pure emotion "someone should do something," (but not them, someone else). They call for bans on guns. They call for blame to be placed on anyone or anything to make them feel better about what happened. Then, in a few weeks they forget. They go back to the stuff that really matters (sports center and America idol). The once again stick their heads back up their asses until another interruption pops it back out.
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It's well within the scope of the discussion. Humans are violent and they always have been. Most people live in a bubble. The only way they ever see real violence is when breaking news interrupts sports center or American idol, then, because they are powerless and quite often just part of the scenery, they lash out on pure emotion "someone should do something," (but not them, someone else). They call for bans on guns. They call for blame to be placed on anyone or anything to make them feel better about what happened. Then, in a few weeks they forget. They go back to the stuff that really matters (sports center and America idol). The once again stick their heads back up their asses until another interruption pops it back out.
You tell 'em Eric.
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Here is something to consider: http://www.applet-magic.com/mortality0.htm

Now, while not diminishing the tragedy in Connecticut, keep things in perspective. What would gun control actually accomplish? There are many of you who have no real idea what an assault weapon is, or the difference between sem-auto and automatic weapons, or even know if a machine gun has ever been used in a criminal act in this country.

How many of you know anyone who has been involved in any gun violence, as opposed to knowing anyone who has been in a car wreck caused by alcohol? A family gets wiped out by a drunk driver, no one says lets ban cars, or beer, right? It is a behavior.

I will say it again, it is a behavior.
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Eh, I think it's time to thank the mods for letting me voice my opinions. I'd rather speak out here, with other contractors on the internet, then spew my views on the job site. Or worse, in front of a customer.

Your all entitled to your views, and in a way I agree with most of them. I think this thread should play out on all forums. I think It's a help to all people to vent somewhere. I kinda regret doing it here, but at the same time I appreciate the opportunity.

I'm going to settle back and enjoy the rest of the forum. If I feel the need to get further involved, I'll take it up on a different forum. I'd hate to see this thread going political, things like this shouldn't divide decent people.
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Just got word that the Westboro Babtist Church plans on demonstrating at the funerals of these children. Words can not describe my anger.
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Just got word that the Westboro Babtist Church plans on demonstrating at the funerals of these children. Words can not describe my anger.
We have a special group of retired military Harley riders who will drown out anything they have to say.
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Eh, I think it's time to thank the mods for letting me voice my opinions. I'd rather speak out here, with other contractors on the internet, then spew my views on the job site. Or worse, in front of a customer.

Your all entitled to your views, and in a way I agree with most of them. I think this thread should play out on all forums. I think It's a help to all people to vent somewhere. I kinda regret doing it here, but at the same time I appreciate the opportunity.

I'm going to settle back and enjoy the rest of the forum. If I feel the need to get further involved, I'll take it up on a different forum. I'd hate to see this thread going political, things like this shouldn't divide decent people.
your opinion is just as valid as all the other nit-wits here
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We have a special group of retired military Harley riders who will drown out anything they have to say.
LE in the state is not going to take kindly to these folks either.
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plans on demonstrating at the funerals of these children. Words can not describe my anger.

They aren't going to have to literally work their asses of to bypass the typical mall--school shooter for the title of America's best bottom feeders.

They are a scab on the body of humanity.
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So back to the gun control lobby: Less then 10,000 people a year are murdered in the US, or a rate of about 3 per 100,000 in population, but compared to the number below?

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 32,885 people died in traffic crashes in 2010 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 10,228 people who died in drunk driving crashes, accounting for 31% of all traffic deaths last year.

So why not outlaw cars? Or driving?
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So back to the gun control lobby: Less then 10,000 people a year are murdered in the US, or a rate of about 3 per 100,000 in population, but compared to the number below?

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 32,885 people died in traffic crashes in 2010 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 10,228 people who died in drunk driving crashes, accounting for 31% of all traffic deaths last year.

So why not outlaw cars? Or driving?
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So back to the gun control lobby: Less then 10,000 people a year are murdered in the US, or a rate of about 3 per 100,000 in population, but compared to the number below?

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 32,885 people died in traffic crashes in 2010 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 10,228 people who died in drunk driving crashes, accounting for 31% of all traffic deaths last year.

So why not outlaw cars? Or driving?
Why are you surprised by the liberal agenda. Modification's are not in their vocabulary, all or nothing, major overall is their premise.

The N.R.A. has recommended certain tweaking, which the lib's have refused. Business as usual.
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This tragedy is a game changer,in the coming months you will see a natiowide plan to secure our schools.

We will never be able to predict who will go insane and do something like this but we can make sure we do a better job at protecting our kids at school.
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This tragedy is a game changer,in the coming months you will see a natiowide plan to secure our schools.

We will never be able to predict who will go insane and do something like this
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Obama needs to appoint a "csar" to concentrate on this problem. The Government has the ability to confront these outrageous event's, but lack the desire.

We elect and trust them. Shame on us.
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Obama needs to appoint a "csar" to concentrate on this problem. The Government has the ability to confront these outrageous event's, but lack the desire.

We elect and trust them. Shame on us.
Sure. The government would get it fixed just like they fixed the budget, immigration, the deficit, oil independence, national security, healthcare, earmarks, oh wait... None of those have been improved at all in the last 20 years, so why would we think they could handle this?

Our government = incompetent and corrupt. Let's hope for less government "help", not more. Like the great Will Rogers said, "be thankful we aren't getting all the government we're paying for".
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Here is something to consider: http://www.applet-magic.com/mortality0.htm

Now, while not diminishing the tragedy in Connecticut, keep things in perspective. What would gun control actually accomplish? There are many of you who have no real idea what an assault weapon is, or the difference between sem-auto and automatic weapons, or even know if a machine gun has ever been used in a criminal act in this country.

How many of you know anyone who has been involved in any gun violence, as opposed to knowing anyone who has been in a car wreck caused by alcohol? A family gets wiped out by a drunk driver, no one says lets ban cars, or beer, right? It is a behavior.

I will say it again, it is a behavior.
Cars are an absolute necessity for everyone while guns are not. Guns are inherently made to shoot to kill while cars are made to drive around in. Gun violence in the USA is off the charts compared to industrialized nations. Obviously keeping more guns out of peoples hands is a good thing.

On CNN there is an article about some dude that did something similar in China. Stabbed 20 or so kids but none or few died because the weapon was less deadly.

Theres something to be said for that, and at the same time I think guns of all shapes and sizes should be accessible to people under the right circumstances.

Just the other day we had a thread, or still have, about the ex police chief that shot his neighbor. He seemed like a perfectly good candidate for owning a gun but proved everyone wrong.

How can you argue against stricter gun laws after these shootings keep happening, and what is a better answer?
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Here is something to consider: http://www.applet-magic.com/mortality0.htm

Now, while not diminishing the tragedy in Connecticut, keep things in perspective. What would gun control actually accomplish? There are many of you who have no real idea what an assault weapon is, or the difference between sem-auto and automatic weapons, or even know if a machine gun has ever been used in a criminal act in this country.

How many of you know anyone who has been involved in any gun violence, as opposed to knowing anyone who has been in a car wreck caused by alcohol? A family gets wiped out by a drunk driver, no one says lets ban cars, or beer, right? It is a behavior.

I will say it again, it is a behavior.

I just looked at this chart. Why are you equating self inflicted or otherwise random death vs taking the lives of others. I can't wish cardiovascular disease upon a group of children if I feel like going on a rampage.
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isn't that virtually where were at. a friend of mine just became a licensed gun distributor without a store front...

it seems like the pro gun stance is for everyone to be armed at all times. sounds interesting...

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