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Old 08-12-2014, 06:00 AM   #61
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From my understanding, his last photo... RIP Robin...




It's odd how, given the circumstances, you can look at that photo and not only seeing a lifetime of comedic and acting genius while simultaneously see the pain... Glad there was a smile though...

Unique actor in that he was part of the lives he entertained, both young and old over decades (IOW - a true star)... sad end, but as I told my kids, remember not this small piece of his life that brings you sadness, but rather remember all the great memories he supplied you with over the years... while he will be missed, he will also be appreciated and in this way what he gave us lives on... we started talking about all the movies and things that he did that made us laugh and think...

That's the stuff right there...

He didn't leave us empty handed... 4 more films on the way from what I hear...

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Old 08-12-2014, 06:09 AM   #62
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It goes to show you that money doesn't make you happy. Having no money sucks, been there done that, but riches and fame won't give you a reason to live.
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I've been a fan of his since his spot on Happy Days and then Mork and Mindy. Hell I even had a set of those gay suspenders when I was a kid. I've seen his standup twice. The first time I was shocked at his potty-mouth, as were a lot of folks, and he said "This ain't Mork and Mindy MF'ers". Hilarious! Great actor, too. RIP Robin. You will be missed.





Instead of making a phucked up comment like that, maybe you should congratulate him on the numerous USO concerts he did for our troops all over the world, including many in Irag and Afganistan, in combat zones. This is a thread about Robin Williams, not something in P&R. That's my damn two cents.

No one asked for your two cents. I didn't say anything negative about the guy.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:41 AM   #64
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Got to wonder if he was being medicated for his "severe depression"

Side effects of the anti-depressants.....suicidal thoughts.

Maybe "he" didn't take his life, but the medication did.

I have a friend going through depression and the medication to me really screwed him up worse.
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When it comes to depression, suicide, etc. I can say that I understand from my own experience of being popular. I never really suffered depression nor did I ever want to die but I can recall many times when I was very sad and very lonely. When you are popular, you don't really have a lot of friends because most people that you come into contact with are more interested in what they can get from you vs. what they can share and learn about you.

I've had people around me who wanted to hang around and let me "entertain" them but very rarely had I ever crossed paths with someone who wanted to have a real conversation that was not based on, or centered around my popularity.
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No suicide note.

Someone stated today that those serious about suicide are less likely to leave a note than those who are not as serious but are crying out for help.
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I can't put my finger on why this death bothers me so much but it does. It bothers me more than any others (entertainers) have in the past.
I feel, like has been stated by so many, that he was a kind person to everyone...full of compassion.
Weird...just kind of zapped me.
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When I was at a coroner's inquest, they had a map of the state on the wall. On that map were little colored dots showing the location of all the deaths in the state. Each color represented a different cause of death.

Yellow was the color for the suicides. The yellow dots out numbered all the other dots combined. This happens everyday to a lot of people. You just don't hear about it unless it's someone famous.

From my childhood neighborhood 4 other kids I ran with completed suicide at various ages. I didn't know about these until I was touched by this epidemic.

It was a very middle class neighborhood. On the outside everything looked perfect. Deep dark secrets behind closed doors. I don't have the answers.

All of it, Tragic.
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I found this to be very well done.

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heavy doses of drugs extended over a long period of time, = what happened, sad as it is, there was more than enough time for him to change that situation.
but given his career and the people that surrounded him, it was all but inevitable.

its still sad though
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Can we stop the national hand wringing already? It's another drugged out Hollywood celebrity that offed themselves. It happens like clockwork. He was an entertainer, he didn't cure cancer or invent a device that saved lives.
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I can't put my finger on why this death bothers me so much but it does. It bothers me more than any others (entertainers) have in the past.
I feel, like has been stated by so many, that he was a kind person to everyone...full of compassion.
Weird...just kind of zapped me.
Same here. For me, I do understand why why it affects me so - just can't put it in words - not yet anyways.
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Can we stop the national hand wringing already? It's another drugged out Hollywood celebrity that offed themselves. It happens like clockwork. He was an entertainer, he didn't cure cancer or invent a device that saved lives.
So you won't be at any candle vigils this week? It is a bit much, but I think when same-generation-as-us folks die suddenly, it's a shocker.

Just wait until the Academy Awards "In Memoriam" this year.

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So you won't be at any candle vigils this week? It is a bit much, but I think when same-generation-as-us folks die suddenly, it's a shocker.
No vigil for me. I didn't even know the guy. It shouldn't come as a shock to anyone that a celebrity self destructs.
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No vigil for me. I didn't even know the guy. It shouldn't come as a shock to anyone that a celebrity self destructs.
Perhaps. Anyway, he was way too wired in his appearances for my comfort. I found it more strange than funny, though he was great in the films. Seems more clear in hindsight.

Another odd duck seems to be Harrison Ford. He does some strange interviews. Maybe he's just overworked.
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Can we stop the national hand wringing already? It's another drugged out Hollywood celebrity that offed themselves. It happens like clockwork. He was an entertainer, he didn't cure cancer or invent a device that saved lives.

Drugged out?
Well yes, since alcohol is the number one drug in this country.

He was a coke head, but every thing I have read, he told about quitting coke cold turkey when John Belushi died.

Alcohol was his demon.
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Yes, drugs include alcohol. Quitting is easy, done it lots of times.
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What could have possibly been so bad about his life that he would commit or indeed, even contemplate suicide?

Or anyone for that matter? This is something that is just so alien a concept for me that I have trouble thinking about it.
In all seriousness, it's equally foreign to me that there are people who've never had a suicidal thought flit across their mind.

My grandmother ended her own life. I have other close relatives that tried. A lifetime ago, I also tried, and was hospitalized and survived. After I saw how much pain this caused to my mother, I (eventually) became genuinely grateful to have survived. That was 40 years ago.

Artists tend to be sensitive souls, and this world is a very, VERY difficult place for a sensitive soul. I've long believed that the most talented artists among us (such as Robin Williams), are the most sensitive. (It's estimated that about 10% of the human race is "highly sensitive.")

Suicide is not selfish. Suicide happens when life events overwhelm someone's ability to cope.

I also believe there's a genetic element to suicide. As I said, we have one known suicide and two attempted in my small family.

My daughter is a living kidney donor. She gave a kidney to her best friend, to save her life. One of the pre-surgery "screening" questions for my daughter was, "Do you suffer from depression?"

My daughter (then 27 years old) answered, NO, thinking that 1) It was none of their business and 2) who *doesn't* suffer from depression?

Post-surgery, the surgeon explained to her the reason for the question. For reasons that no one can scientifically explain, they've found that depression can "spread" via donated organs.

There's a lot more to depression than we really understand at this point.
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In all seriousness, it's equally foreign to me that there are people who've never had a suicidal thought flit across their mind.

My grandmother ended her own life. I have other close relatives that tried. A lifetime ago, I also tried, and was hospitalized and survived. After I saw how much pain this caused to my mother, I (eventually) became genuinely grateful to have survived. That was 40 years ago.

Artists tend to be sensitive souls, and this world is a very, VERY difficult place for a sensitive soul. I've long believed that the most talented artists among us (such as Robin Williams), are the most sensitive. (It's estimated that about 10% of the human race is "highly sensitive.")

Suicide is not selfish. Suicide happens when life events overwhelm someone's ability to cope.

I also believe there's a genetic element to suicide. As I said, we have one known suicide and two attempted in my small family.

My daughter is a living kidney donor. She gave a kidney to her best friend, to save her life. One of the pre-surgery "screening" questions for my daughter was, "Do you suffer from depression?"

My daughter (then 27 years old) answered, NO, thinking that 1) It was none of their business and 2) who *doesn't* suffer from depression?

Post-surgery, the surgeon explained to her the reason for the question. For reasons that no one can scientifically explain, they've found that depression can "spread" via donated organs.

There's a lot more to depression than we really understand at this point.
Were you under the influence of drugs at the time?
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My daughter is a living kidney donor. She gave a kidney to her best friend, to save her life. One of the pre-surgery "screening" questions for my daughter was, "Do you suffer from depression?"

My daughter (then 27 years old) answered, NO, thinking that 1) It was none of their business and 2) who *doesn't* suffer from depression?

Post-surgery, the surgeon explained to her the reason for the question. For reasons that no one can scientifically explain, they've found that depression can "spread" via donated organs.

There's a lot more to depression than we really understand at this point.
I don't by the infectious disease theory at all. There certainly are environmental conditions that can affect you but I don't believe it just something you get. If a doctor really said that to you he was voicing an opinion, not scientific fact.


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Nearly all people who receive a transplant, experts say, feel elated and experience a sense of relief and hope after a surgery that goes well. But with time, that initial optimism may be tinged with other feelings. You may start to worry about your condition coming back. You may be afraid of organ rejection. Or you may fixate on the uncertainty of the future.

Guilt After an Organ Transplant

Guilt is a common reaction people have after a transplant. Patients often report thinking a lot about the donor and felling guilty about benefitting from the donor's death.

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