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Joasis 05-12-2019 06:29 AM

The Olden Days Thread
 
One of my buddies and I were talking the other day about the grandkids, and shooting sports....and I told him about my youngest grandchild, Jamo...9 years old now, and I find myself wrapped around his finger.....drive the Ranger? Sure buddy.....lets go shoot grampa...sure buddy....can you make the zip line faster? Sure buddy...whatever you want!

Anyway, I digress...we try to fill their lives with stuff we liked, and they may like....but there really seams to be nothing special about it.

When I was a kid, I would scrounge up 50 cents and head to the Otasco Store for a box of .22 shells. And that was something to look forward to....sometimes, you had to wait weeks to get to go do some plinking....and you had fun! Now, my grandsons take it for granted...I break out a brick of .22s (550 rounds) and if they shoot all that up, get another one out.

When I was 9, I was considered old enough to work and drive the smaller tractor on the farm...round and round 160 acres with a 10 foot disk....and as I remember it, I liked it....it was life....

Now, my grandkids want to drive our Polaris Ranger...for fun. They don't have the same life I had. I would have already bought them all 4 wheelers, but I have been threatened by the mothers that grandpa will not get visitation if I do this... :laughing:

But anyway.....I am guilty of spoiling the boys....and every guy I know does the same thing...my grandkids have a 300 foot zipline....I would have never dreamed of such a thing..... :no: And Christmas? Don't get me started.....

In the olden days, we got one present usually....that is, a fun present, like a BB gun, or a model, or something, some clothes, and we appreciated it....as much as I spoil the kids, I doubt they even conceptualize the value of any gifts......and here is my point: We live in a world today where everything seems to come easy....My dad had one rifle and did not own a handgun...my grandfather had a shotgun and a .22 and that was all.....I have safes full of guns. My grandfather waited all his life to buy a decent table saw....and everything he had was used and second hand and he worked in a shed behind the house........I have a fully equipped shop, heated and cooled, with every woodworking tool and I even have 2 lathes and a Bridgeport to fabricate anything I want....and if I want something, I just go buy it. It ain't like the olden days.

Who else has noticed how we are now, compared to back then?

Easy Gibson 05-12-2019 07:51 AM

That's how it's always been though, right?

I remember drilling holes in my Grandfathers work bench, for fun, with his help. My father has assured me that he would have been killed and eaten for doing such a thing.

Parents' job is to discipline, Grandparents' job is to do everything they can to completely undermine that effort. Underwork them, overpay them. Let them eat a pound of Gummi Bears.

Inner10 05-12-2019 09:31 AM

I don't think things have changed much.


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TimNJ 05-12-2019 09:38 AM

I let my grandson drive my tractor when he was 6.

I had it in low range, 1st gear, and the throttle on idle. I could walk along side faster than it moved, but he was driving:thumbsup:

Jaws 05-12-2019 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7540967)
I don't think things have changed much.


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Sure as hell has. We live in a disposable world. Had nothing to do with income back then, it was a way of life. My dad is only about Jays age and he's the same way. He fixes things, not just throws it away and gets a new one. Same thing with the ammo story, when I was a kid there was a limit to what we got, Beyond that's wasteful. Even hunting birds I got a box of shells, 25 rounds. You can't limit with 25 you didn't need to be shooting them anyway. LOL



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Inner10 05-12-2019 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7540985)
Sure as hell has. We live in a disposable world. Had nothing to do with income back then, it was a way of life. My dad is only about Jays age and he's the same way. He fixes things, not just throws it away and gets a new one. Same thing with the ammo story, when I was a kid there was a limit to what we got, Beyond that's wasteful. Even hunting birds I got a box of shells, 25 rounds. You can't let it with 25 you didn't need to be shooting them anyway. LOL



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Back then a refrigerator costs 2 weeks wages, today it cost 2 days. It made financial sense to fix things.

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Jaws 05-12-2019 10:19 AM

I fall in between old school and my generation. I buy quality **** that lasts forever and don't get multiples. That's my gun cabinet - I bought one deer riddle and one shotgun as a young adult - carefully weighed all options and bought s Browning A Bolt Medallion. 270 and added a boss muzzle break and Luepold scope and Beretta Urika Optima 12 gauge auto and a Glock 17, I had a .410 I bought when I was 12 and a .22 mag. I bought a larger caliber for bigger game later. Any other guns in there are inherited or the gift from the hba from my terms as president. Each gun has a purpose. I bought an AR and didn't like it and it's on permanent loan to a good friend of mine. Don't need it if I don't want it.

Kids I have taken a pretty large step in a different direction than most people are with their kids. My oldest daughter's 9, she doesn't get anything bought for her anymore really. At least from me. She wants a toy or something like that she pays for it with her own money but she earns doing different tasks did I give to her. Teaching her the value of a dollar and also hopefully some of the incentivized entrepreneurship.

My dad is pretty big on buying them pretty big gifts for Christmas and birthdays, but not multiples. When I was a kid we got one Christmas present like you were saying and then other stuff we needed. Birthdays we got one present, generally something we needed like a pocket knife for a watch or something.

He is soft AF with them comparatively though. My daughter did some kind of minor infraction when we were having dinner at his house on Friday. I said to bring me her iPad deal, I said put it on the table you can have it back in 24 hours if you don't mess up again. She got all pouty and ran off. My dad says what the hell is wrong with you? He said what the hell did she do to deserve to get her pad taken away? Damn. Shaking his head. LOL. He would have beat my ass when I was her age LOL.

As far as construction I fall in between two. My dad is super Frugal and conservative with business, spending and materials. Not to say he'll buy crappie materials but he will spend an unreal amount of time trying to engineer things to save a few boards. I've never been that way. Just build it right and get it done. On the other hand I do my own takeoffs to get them as tight as possible and when I was wearing bags myself and when my brother was our scrap piles were very minor.

My Crews now are not all trained by me or my dad and my brother. And some of the younger guys we still instruct but they've never worked with us when we were working. Especially our main sub.

They are far less conservative but it is more time-consuming to try to sit on the job and explain to them how to save materials than it is to just burn them. My old man cannot abide this in any way so I just told him to stay off the jobs. LOL. Now that he's hauling the dumpsters he bitches constantly about it on Friday night dinner or when we have lunch. It truly bothers him to a point that it's almost worth having some framing classes. LOL. He may end up being the one that teaches them I don't know.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d390cfa982.jpg

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Jaws 05-12-2019 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7540997)
Back then a refrigerator costs 2 weeks wages, today it cost 2 days. It made financial sense to fix things.

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That is true to a point but not really if you buy anything that's decent. A TV still $1,000, most Americans are not making $500 a day.

Same for refrigerators. Most Americans aren't making 750 a day

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Robie 05-12-2019 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7540967)
I don't think things have changed much.


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Then why have things changed so much?

Jaws 05-12-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Robie (Post 7541009)
Then why have things changed so much?

Good times breed soft people. Been good times for generations

Soft people don't enforce or uphold standards

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Inner10 05-12-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7541001)
That is true to a point but not really if you buy anything that's decent. A TV still $1,000, most Americans are not making $500 a day.

Same for refrigerators. Most Americans aren't making 750 a day

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In 1975 my father sold TVs, he made 3.50 an hour, the cheapest TV was 400 bucks. In 2005 I made 12 bucks an hour selling TVs. The cheapest TV we sold was about the same price.


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Inner10 05-12-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Robie (Post 7541009)
Then why have things changed so much?

Depends how you look at it, but I think it's more a case of the more things change the more they stay the same.

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Jaws 05-12-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7541021)
In 1975 my father sold TVs, he made 3.50 an hour, the cheapest TV was 400 bucks. In 2005 I made 12 bucks an hour selling TVs. The cheapest TV we sold was about the same price.


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Someone making the equivalent of 500 bucks a week in 1970 woulndt throw a 30 dollar mower out they'd fix it.

That's a decent comparison.

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Robie 05-12-2019 11:02 AM

I heard on the radio last week...the average millennial spends $65 per month on craft beer.

I look at all the tattoos young people have...they don't give those away.

I have a hard time feeling sorry for people crying they aren't making enough money... and then seeing what they are spending the money they do make on.

Inner10 05-12-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7541027)
Someone making the equivalent of 500 bucks a week in 1970 woulndt throw a 30 dollar mower out they'd fix it.

That's a decent comparison.

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My point is that it's not that we love trashing things, or are trying to be wasteful, people are value maximizers. As the price of new things relative to wages drops it approaches the marginal cost to repair. Between the repair price and the new price lies a threshold where the individual will value the benefit of buying new vs the risk or repairing the old.

We don't fix many tools and appliances because it doesn't make financial sense.

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Jaws 05-12-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Robie (Post 7541029)
I heard on the radio last week...the average millennial spends $65 per month on craft beer.

I look at all the tattoos young people have...they don't give those away.

I have a hard time feeling sorry for people crying they aren't making enough money... and then seeing what they are spending the money they do make on.

Yep definitely more money on consumption. I'm in that category, craft beer, decent cigars, nicer clothes, nicer meals out ect... than when I was growing up. My pop still drinks Miller lite, used to be MGD, ect...

I don't see anything wrong with any of it for society or individuals IF they can afford it.

Coffee is a big thing too. Very big. 5 doallrs a cup ect... French press etc.. I'm still a black foldgers guy.

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Inner10 05-12-2019 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Robie (Post 7541029)
I heard on the radio last week...the average millennial spends $65 per month on craft beer.

I look at all the tattoos young people have...they don't give those away.

I have a hard time feeling sorry for people crying they aren't making enough money... and then seeing what they are spending the money they do make on.

I spend way more than 65 a month on beer...you don't drink more than 60 bucks a month in beer?

People 30-50 statistically have the most tatoos....but I guess 50 is still considered young for ya Robie...

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Robie 05-12-2019 11:08 AM

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I don't see anything wrong with any of it for society or individuals IF they can afford it.
Therein lies the rub.

Jaws 05-12-2019 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7541033)
My point is that it's not that we love trashing things, or are trying to be wasteful, people are value maximizers. As the price of new things relative to wages drops it approaches the marginal cost to repair. Between the repair price and the new price lies a threshold where the individual will value the benefit of buying new vs the risk or repairing the old.

We don't fix many tools and appliances because it doesn't make financial sense.

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That's because **** isn't as well made also. Wal-Mart generation. Cheap **** for less. Not a lot f9 quality stuff anymore. Also harder to repair.

Id repair my Occidentals but I wouldnt fix CLCs

My point is most will opt for cheap and throw away instead of buy quality and take care of it

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Robie 05-12-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7541037)
I spend way more than 65 a month on beer...you don't drink more than 60 bucks a month in beer?

People 30-50 statistically have the most tatoos....but I guess 50 is still considered young for ya Robie...

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I don't hear you complaining about your income either....

Jaws 05-12-2019 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7541037)
I spend way more than 65 a month on beer...you don't drink more than 60 bucks a month in beer?

People 30-50 statistically have the most tatoos....but I guess 50 is still considered young for ya Robie...

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I try not to drink as much beer so I get even fatter lol, but it's easy to spend a lot more than that for sure

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Inner10 05-12-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7541035)
Yep definitely more money on consumption. I'm in that category, craft beer, decent cigars, nicer clothes, nicer meals out ect... than when I was growing up. My pop still drinks Miller lite, used to be MGD, ect...

I don't see anything wrong with any of it for society or individuals IF they can afford it.

Coffee is a big thing too. Very big. 5 doallrs a cup ect... French press etc.. I'm still a black foldgers guy.

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To be honest I'd give up my fancy beers and cigars before I switched back to Folgers. I grew up poor, I use to pinch every penny and live down to the last dollar, and drink Folgers and smoke Backwoods....now I'm in a fortunate enough point in my life when I can drink decent coffee, fancy beer and burn down hand rolled Cubans.

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Jaws 05-12-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7541047)
To be honest I'd give up my fancy beers and cigars before I switched back to Folgers. I grew up poor, I use to pinch every penny and live down to the last dollar, and drink Folgers and smoke Backwoods....now I'm in a fortunate enough point in my life when I can drink decent coffee, fancy beer and burn down hand rolled Cubans.

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Same but i like foldgers fine. My brother has a french press at the shop. Its good but so is foldgers. I drink 99 cent gas station coffee if I buy .

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Robie 05-12-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7541045)
I try not to drink as much beer so I get even fatter lol, but it's easy to spend a lot more than that for sure

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The point is....don't buy $6 craft beers and $5 cups of coffee and $200 tats and then complain you can't afford rent/utilities...yada, yada, yada....

Inner10 05-12-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Robie (Post 7541043)
I don't hear you complaining about your income either....

Not many people I can blame other than myself being self employed.

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Jaws 05-12-2019 11:15 AM

I still like backwoods sometimes. Especially when at deer camphttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0c2c779c50.jpg

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Jaws 05-12-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Robie (Post 7541053)
The point is....don't buy $6 craft beers and $5 cups of coffee and $200 tats and then complain you can't afford rent/utilities...yada, yada, yada....

I agree

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Easy Gibson 05-12-2019 11:21 AM

$65 on beer isn't going to make up the gap in rent. I get what you're saying, but housing costs are astronomical today, no matter how much of a spendthrift you are.

Robie 05-12-2019 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Gibson (Post 7541065)
$65 on beer isn't going to make up the gap in rent. I get what you're saying, but housing costs are astronomical today, no matter how much of a spendthrift you are.

It ALL adds up.

Jaws 05-12-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Gibson (Post 7541065)
$65 on beer isn't going to make up the gap in rent. I get what you're saying, but housing costs are astronomical today, no matter how much of a spendthrift you are.

Yep, all the more important to up skill sets and make more.

Rent is twice as high here as it was 20 years ago, and I pay twice as much as I made 20 years ago to a laborer. I made $8 an hour they're making 16. So if I was able to pay bills and save money at $320 a week they should be able to do the same on 650. Of course I'm not a wuss and I never worked 40 hours a week in my life until a couple years ago. A Laborer's job is not supposed to get you to first base in style, you're learning basic skills and doing grunt work. Same thing for someone who chooses to work at Home Depot. Probably going to have to work more than 40 hours a week if you want anything decent. Always been that way

Average rent was like 650 a month back then, my first place was a $450 a month efficiency. Piece of crap but I could afford it. Then I got a little bit nicer place with a roommate. Never had an issue making ends meet, when I got married a few years later we even had health insurance Etc.


Lots of people do a heck of a lot more with a heck of a lot less than I ever have had to.

People are just snowflakes and like to bitch.

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Jaws 05-12-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Robie (Post 7541067)
It ALL adds up.

Yep.

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Robie 05-12-2019 11:30 AM

"I want what you have but I don't want to go through what you did to get it".

Jaws 05-12-2019 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robie (Post 7541075)
"I want what you have but I don't want to go through what you did to get it".

Yep. I've never understood the mentality and I despise it. Never been like that myself. It didn't piss me off and my boss had a nice pickup or the nice house and his wife had nice clothes Etc. It incentivized me to do the same or better.

There is truly a great deal of people out there who hate people for succeeding and they are usually the type of people who could not do what most of those people are doing if you gave them every Head Start in the world. Makes me sick.

Although it's probably always been that way to an extent it is a lot more rampant now or else a lot more visible because of social media etc. I am sick to death of people in their twenties and even 50s and 60s bitching about people making more money having to pay higher taxes Etc because they can't make it to first base because they are snowflakes. Sitting around waiting for a government handout is the way you end civilizations.

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Jaws 05-12-2019 11:47 AM

There's a young contractor that I I'm trying to Mentor a bit, and he's a good guy, pretty skilled too. I told him how to write a scope of work, what to put in a contract, and how to get more money for his services, just basic stuff. Send him work. He didn't have a father figure so I'm trying to be more of an older brother type figure for him. Push him in the right direction sort of thing

He's in his second year of business, and his wife is pregnant with their second kid, she stays home because Day care is almost as much money as she would make with her skill-set. He is saying he's having a hard time making ends meet now. Knowing the guy fairly well I know he's a late starter, usually doesn't get to the job site until 9 because he goes to the lumberyard at 8 and stop for coffee at cetera.

I told him to start getting up at 4:30. I said if you're getting up at 7 now maybe drop the back to 630- then 6, then 530 etc... until you get there. 5 days a week get up at 4:30, get your invoicing done and be in your truck by 6:30 with breakfast already ate and a cup of coffee, get to The LumberYard first at 7. Or better yet get it delivered if possible. Although it is hard to count on that.

Get to the job site by no later than eight, and you will end up with two extra hours a day you were putting on the job site, 25% increase in production and income. Immediate results.

Does he do that? Nope. Does exactly what he's been doing this whole time. I can tell by his personality he has the mentality or he will Envy somebody else's stuff and think you got some kind of special break to get it. I've heard little bits and pieces of his mentality towards others success come out. He's twenty-nine or so.

That's ridiculous.

He could end up being a builder in the long-term if he plays his cards right, but he probably will not. He has the managerial skill set and trade knowledge, although he needs more job experience in my opinion. But I would bet he even ends up working for somebody else or stays a small operator (nothing wromg with that but thats not what he wants) who says it's impossible to get bigger excetera because he won't put in the time and effort to make it happen. I doubt he reads any trade Publications or business books or construction books i recommend to him either

A lot of entitlement attitude out there that is BS

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Inner10 05-12-2019 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7541081)
There's a young contractor that I I'm trying to Mentor a bit, and he's a good guy, pretty skilled too. I told him how to write a scope of work, what to put in a contract, and how to get more money for his services, just basic stuff. Send him work. He didn't have a father figure so I'm trying to be more of an older brother type figure for him. Push him in the right direction sort of thing

He's in his second year of business, and his wife is pregnant with their second kid, she stays home because Day care is almost as much money as she would make with her skill-set. He is saying he's having a hard time making ends meet now. Knowing the guy fairly well I know he's a late starter, usually doesn't get to the job site until 9 because he goes to the lumberyard at 8 and stop for coffee at cetera.

I told him to start getting up at 4:30. I said if you're getting up at 7 now maybe drop the back to 630- then 6, then 530 etc... until you get there. 5 days a week get up at 4:30, get your invoicing done and be in your truck by 6:30 with breakfast already ate and a cup of coffee, get to The LumberYard first at 7. Or better yet get it delivered if possible. Although it is hard to count on that.

Get to the job site by no later than eight, and you will end up with two extra hours a day you were putting on the job site, 25% increase in production and income. Immediate results.

Does he do that? Nope. Does exactly what he's been doing this whole time. I can tell by his personality he has the mentality or he will Envy somebody else's stuff and think you got some kind of special break to get it. I've heard little bits and pieces of his mentality towards others success come out. He's twenty-nine or so.

That's ridiculous.

He could end up being a builder in the long-term if he plays his cards right, but he probably will not. He has the managerial skill set and trade knowledge, although he needs more job experience in my opinion. But I would bet he even ends up working for somebody else or stays a small operator (nothing wromg with that but thats not what he wants) who says it's impossible to get bigger excetera because he won't put in the time and effort to make it happen. I doubt he reads any trade Publications or business books or construction books i recommend to him either

A lot of entitlement attitude out there that is BS

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Old habits die hard.

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Robie 05-12-2019 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7541081)
There's a young contractor that I I'm trying to Mentor a bit, and he's a good guy, pretty skilled too. I told him how to write a scope of work, what to put in a contract, and how to get more money for his services, just basic stuff. Send him work. He didn't have a father figure so I'm trying to be more of an older brother type figure for him. Push him in the right direction sort of thing

He's in his second year of business, and his wife is pregnant with their second kid, she stays home because Day care is almost as much money as she would make with her skill-set. He is saying he's having a hard time making ends meet now. Knowing the guy fairly well I know he's a late starter, usually doesn't get to the job site until 9 because he goes to the lumberyard at 8 and stop for coffee at cetera.

I told him to start getting up at 4:30. I said if you're getting up at 7 now maybe drop the back to 630- then 6, then 530 etc... until you get there. 5 days a week get up at 4:30, get your invoicing done and be in your truck by 6:30 with breakfast already ate and a cup of coffee, get to The LumberYard first at 7. Or better yet get it delivered if possible. Although it is hard to count on that.

Get to the job site by no later than eight, and you will end up with two extra hours a day you were putting on the job site, 25% increase in production and income. Immediate results.

Does he do that? Nope. Does exactly what he's been doing this whole time. I can tell by his personality he has the mentality or he will Envy somebody else's stuff and think you got some kind of special break to get it. I've heard little bits and pieces of his mentality towards others success come out. He's twenty-nine or so.

That's ridiculous.

He could end up being a builder in the long-term if he plays his cards right, but he probably will not. He has the managerial skill set and trade knowledge, although he needs more job experience in my opinion. But I would bet he even ends up working for somebody else or stays a small operator (nothing wromg with that but thats not what he wants) who says it's impossible to get bigger excetera because he won't put in the time and effort to make it happen. I doubt he reads any trade Publications or business books or construction books i recommend to him either

A lot of entitlement attitude out there that is BS

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...and probably will have a 3rd child.:eek:

Jaws 05-12-2019 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7541093)
Old habits die hard.

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Well I gave him a copy of James Clear Atomic habits. If he would spend a little time educating himself perhaps he could break those habits.

I'd love to sleep until 7 too, I love to sleep. But I like nice chit too. LOL

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Inner10 05-12-2019 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7541099)
Well I gave him a copy of James Clear Atomic habits. If he would spend a little time educating himself perhaps he could break those habits.

I'd love to sleep until 7 too, I love to sleep. But I like nice chit too. LOL

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Sleeping till 7 is fine if you wanna work till 11pm.

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Robie 05-12-2019 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7541107)
Sleeping till 7 is fine if you wanna work till 11pm.

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Just ask Leo.:laughing:

Jaws 05-12-2019 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7541107)
Sleeping till 7 is fine if you wanna work till 11pm.

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Not conducive for a father/husband. I did that scrap for too long but am glad I did. Although more like 5- 8. Scopes ect... in the am before I left.

I like being home at 5.

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NYgutterguy 05-12-2019 12:09 PM

Drove my mom to NYC the other day. Was on the road by 5. Couldnít believe the amount of contractors I saw on the road that early. I usually get up at 6 by lay in bed till 7-730.


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Jaws 05-12-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NYgutterguy (Post 7541115)
Drove my mom to NYC the other day. Was on the road by 5. Couldnít believe the amount of contractors I saw on the road that early. I usually get up at 6 by lay in bed till 7-730.


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Leave at 745 and pick up girls at 445.

When I was running all the jobs and bidding estimating I'd be home at 8.


My brother leaves at 445 too, supers and hands 430 unless they work to 5

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NYgutterguy 05-12-2019 12:17 PM

The Olden Days Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7541117)
Leave at 745 and pick up girls at 445.

When I was running all the jobs and bidding estimating I'd be home at 8.


My brother leaves at 445 too, supers and hands 430 unless they work to 5

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Guys get to the yard at 8 and Usually roll back in 230-330 on average. Couple days this week we worked hour away so they didnít pull in till 5.


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Robie 05-12-2019 12:18 PM

It's whatever works, schedule-wise.

But if it ain't working (the guy you are trying to mentor), change it.

tjbnwi 05-12-2019 12:38 PM

I miss the days of metal tipped Jarts and bottle rocket battles. Always good times...

Tom

Inner10 05-12-2019 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7541113)
Not conducive for a father/husband. I did that scrap for too long but am glad I did. Although more like 5- 8. Scopes ect... in the am before I left.

I like being home at 5.

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I've been starting later and working later, this way I can get up with my daughter, go to work, come back for dinner/bed time and head out for a call after she's in bed.

Jaws 05-12-2019 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7541159)
I've been starting later and working later, this way I can get up with my daughter, go to work, come back for dinner/bed time and head out for a call after she's in bed.

How old now?

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SmallTownGuy 05-12-2019 01:16 PM

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Inner10 05-12-2019 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 7541163)
How old now?

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Almost a year and a half.

Robie 05-12-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Inner10 (Post 7541179)
Almost a year and a half.

Time flies.


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