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Old 06-18-2015, 03:49 PM   #1
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My father-in-law was a retired fireman and used to get into major arguments with his brother-in-law. Basically the brother-in-law would always say that fireman were nothing more than glorified bums that slept all day. So you can imagine the fireworks at the kitchen table. Though i'm starting now to wonder if he had a point.

"Firefighters who retired last year are pulling in annual pensions averaging $100,636 because the majority left on disability and is collecting three-quarters of their final salaries, a watchdog group said Tuesday.

"Eight of the retirees are taking in $200,000 or more a year.

"Officials said that 66 percent of all firefighters are currently receiving disability pensions."

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Old 06-18-2015, 03:55 PM   #2
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It's worse in RI. Everything like that is worse in RI. I hope to get out soon.

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that slept all day.
Not the whole day.
A few years ago it came out that Takoma Park firemen were keeping a wayward girl in the firehouse.

Dunno' who got the better of that deal. . .

What was your brother-in-law's occupation?

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His brother-in-law worked for the federal government. I don't know what he did.
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I'll assume slept all day.
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His brother-in-law worked for the federal government. I don't know what he did.
I doubt his BIL ever stood in a puddle of gas in a 70 mph highway cutting someone out of a car with his balls in his throat. That might only happen once or twice in a career or maybe dozens, but its more than that paper shuffler is doing for his money. If it was your kid in that car you wouldn't think about the money he or she was costing.

100k is steep, but i dont know cost of living there. Fireman dont get big money at all here. I did it for free for about 8 years.
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Jaw's I couldn't have said it any better . Seems like everyone's memory is short . Tony you really hit a nerve with this thread and maybe you should be defending the men of the FDNY instead of looking to stir the pot . When was the last time a fire dept. or for that matter any uniformed first responders lost 343 brave men in one catastrophe !!! Most knew when walking up those stairs that they wouldn't be walking back down. Those men were no different then the men and woman in the armed forces protecting our lives here and abroad . To me it's like it happened yesterday I'll never forget .The city couldn't pay me enough to do that job,these are some of the bravest men in the world . I guess the Post left out the part that these men are working double shifts and need to get some sleep before the next catastrophe comes calling .
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$100K in NYC isn't as much as you think it is...

The risk-reward ratio plays in big-time IMHO...


In contrast...

Katie Pavlich: ICE director says no one fired for releasing more than 65,000 criminal aliens... http://twitchy.com/2015/06/17/katie-...iminal-aliens/





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A $100K in NYC isn't as much as you think it is...

The risk-reward ratio plays in big-time IMHO...


In contrast...

Katie Pavlich: ICE director says no one fired for releasing more than 65,000 criminal aliens... http://twitchy.com/2015/06/17/katie-...iminal-aliens/





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A big percentage of the guys live in the suburbs. I live in a very middle class neighborhood with about 15 fdny and nypd. My next door neighbor fdny in Brooklyn. Mostly real good dudes. I can hang over the edge of a roof at 3 stories but pulling a decapitated body out of the elevator shaft would make me sick. They deserve every penny


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I doubt his BIL ever stood in a puddle of gas in a 70 mph highway cutting someone out of a car with his balls in his throat. That might only happen once or twice in a career or maybe dozens, but its more than that paper shuffler is doing for his money. If it was your kid in that car you wouldn't think about the money he or she was costing.

100k is steep, but i dont know cost of living there. Fireman dont get big money at all here. I did it for free for about 8 years.
I know one volunteer firefighter who responded to an accident where a car was impaled on the guard rail.

Four teenagers in the car one was cut in half and I don't know about the other ones, all I know is that there was only one survivor.

Another one they cut the guys body out of the drivers seat and then when to the back and got his head out.

So yeah, if anything they should be getting allot more money for what they're doing.
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I know one volunteer firefighter who responded to an accident where a car was impaled on the guard rail.

Four teenagers in the car one was cut in half and I don't know about the other ones, all I know is that there was only one survivor.

Another one they cut the guys body out of the drivers seat and then when to the back and got his head out.

So yeah, if anything they should be getting allot more money for what they're doing.
Putting it that way, I don't know how they retire NOT mentally disabled from seeing and dealing with that... takes a special kind of person...

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OP comes on here just to stir chit.

Not all Firemen & Cops sit around and drink coffee & eat donuts.

Just the same as not all Contractors are POS's or thieves.

Those that talk chit about them have no idea.

Unless you have been in their shoes & know what they deal with, what they see on a daily basis or how they cope with it....

STFU and crawl back under your rock....

More power to them if they retire with a good pension....

Sounds more like a case of jealousy and sore azz than anything else...
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Putting it that way, I don't know how they retire NOT mentally disabled from seeing and dealing with that... takes a special kind of person...

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Those are the easy ones, wait till you hear the stories about having to get a burning person whose panicking on the ground. Or knowing that the reason why the house burnt down is because the parents didn't notice their kid playing with matches.
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OP comes on here just to stir chit.

Not all Firemen & Cops sit around and drink coffee & eat donuts.

Just the same as not all Contractors are POS's or thieves.

Those that talk chit about them have no idea.

Unless you have been in their shoes & know what they deal with, what they see on a daily basis or how they cope with it....

STFU and crawl back under your rock....

More power to them if they retire with a good pension....

Sounds more like a case of jealousy and sore azz than anything else...
Hopefully others on here will apply this same logic to other public servants such as teachers, unfortunately they usually get thrown under the bus.
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Those are the easy ones, wait till you hear the stories about having to get a burning person whose panicking on the ground. Or knowing that the reason why the house burnt down is because the parents didn't notice their kid playing with matches.
Try responding to a plane crash and watching someone scream for help...

but the heat is too intense to get to them and you just watch them burn up...

Try talking to a guy you pulled out of a burning car to find out what happened...

He's too burned up too feel anything but dies in front of you....

or a gun shot victim that bleeds out in your arms before you can do anything or find out what happened.....

Then a really chitty call comes in....

wait until you have to deal with something involving kids....
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Try responding to a plane crash and watching someone scream for help...

but the heat is too intense to get to them and you just watch them burn up...

Try talking to a guy you pulled out of a burning car to find out what happened...

He's too burned up too feel anything but dies in front of you....

or a gun shot victim that bleeds out in your arms before you can do anything or find out what happened.....

Then a really chitty call comes in....

wait until you have to deal with something involving kids....
I was trying to not be too depressing.
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That wasn't even the really bad stuff....
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The article is about being able to pay for retirement for civil service employees . Nothin to do with what the deal with on a daily basis .
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Here's an example of a California policemans pay. It's ridiculous. A construction worker has a better chance of dying on the job then a cop. Just so people can have a place to live.
1.2 mil. Total benefit and pay for one year

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You think new York is high look at California Pensions. When the average californian can live on 51000 a year.

http://transparentcalifornia.com/pensions/2013/calpers/

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