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Old 05-11-2015, 09:31 PM   #21
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I was referring to little league/ pop warner with the ass whipping, but yeah me too. My mom always told us we were special and made a fuss over us. My dad laid out reality
My dad spanked allot. But the one spanking I'll never forget was from mom. I lied to her face and she cried while she spanked me. I realized I'd hurt her more than she could hurt me. One of those defining moments in life. I've never doubted my mom's love for me since that day.
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Old 05-11-2015, 09:36 PM   #22
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Every generation probably does think the previous one is lazy, but I definitely think a LOT of kids born in the late 80's-90's are just plain lazy, undisciplined, entitled BRATS. When the trend of not keeping score in games started I was amazed at the stupidity of it. What was the message we were supposedly sending? It's that stupid purple dinosaur singing that stupid song ("We're all OK" or something like that) that made the kids STUPID. And now all they want to is keep their faces glued to their damn phones all day, waiting for someone to give them something on a silver platter. A few weeks ago I hired a kid and I fired him on his first day, at lunchtime. He talked a good line of BS in the interview. All he had to do was follow me around and fetch things for me and the nitwit couldn't even handle that. Couldn't put his damn phone down. "It's just my girlfriend". I don't care if it's the phvcking Pope!

I'm very proud that I have 2 kids (27 and 29) that are successful and thriving. They were raised knowing the value of a dollar and that you had to work to get that dollar. I never gave our kids the ass-whoopin's I got, but we had discipline in this house and consequences when rules were broken and they turned out great. Our daughter calls/stops by 3-4 times a week and our son calls probably once a week (he lives 6 hours away) just to say 'Hi', so I know they still love us and we didn't torture them with our brand of discipline
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It puts me through a loop to see grown men barely older than me cringe at the sight of dirt, mud, heavy objects, long hours. You are men. Act like it. Check your purse/pity party/unbroken finger nails at the door.
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I have a letter that was written by my great-great grandfather, to my grandfather.

In the letter he talks about how the other kids his age were too lazy to get the jobs that were available at the time.

So, basically, my great-great grandfather thought my grandfathers generation was lazy and worthless.

My grandfather was part of the greatest generation.

There always were lazy people, they just used to be skinny.
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My dad spanked allot. But the one spanking I'll nevier forget was from mom. I lied to her face and she cried while she spanked me. I realized I'd hurt her more than she could hurt me. One of those defining moments in life. I've never doubted my mom's love for me since that day.
I only got a few whuppins, my old man said it didn't do much good for me

He started me digging holes as punishment at about 10.
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... All he had to do was follow me around and fetch things for me and the nitwit couldn't even handle that...
Hell, I've tried providing a lawn chair for a helper and telling them to sit until I ask him to do or get something. I've had two guys quit after the first day because it was "boring". No one wants to help - they all want to be given an assignment and left alone to do it.
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Every generation thinks the youth are lazy and don't want to work. It will work out. I remember when I was a kid and people thought one of my uncles was never going to make it. He has never had a 9-5 job in his life. He was still regularly missing holidays because he couldn't get home. Fast forward and he is by far the most successful person in the family.

Yes that is is true, however "this" millennial generation is very special. And not quite like those lazy of the past. Divorce rates, latch key children, huggin rather than correcting, drug and alchohol use ...... are all far and beyond any factors in the past, imho.
What's worse is the generation that consciously choose to allow it to happen.
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I think they're fine. My teenage sons have good hard-working friends. The baggers at the grocery store seem the same as they ever have. The 20-year olds are more interested in impressing each other than working, same as we were. I don't see it.
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I think most of you have missed the point on the whole "not keeping Score" thing.

when I started in organized sports I was about 9 as I recall
I got on my bike and rode about a mile from my house to the Knights of Columbus Hall and signed myself up for baseball. there were no organized sports for younger kids at that time and my introduction to baseball was a 5'-11 " 12 year old throwing a 70 mile an hour baseball at my head, LOL

when MY sons started in baseball they were 4 years old playing T ball---and then after that it was Coach pitch. they had been playing ball for 5 years before they got to the point where I started. there is no point in keeping score in a 4 year olds Tball game. As a coach you are just happy if you get them to run the bases in the right direction.

I have a nephew that is a millenial.
He is adopted and we don't know anything about the birth parents except that at least one of them was mexican.
His adoptive parents coddled him and gave him every advantage. His adoptive parents later divorced--- but still gave him every advantage possible.--- the mom was especially soft on him---and is to this day.

He got sent to the best schools, sent to college, travel opportunities his whole life, eating in fine restraunts etc.---- never had chores that I ever saw--- never shoveled snow a day in his life.........
Graduated college and IMMEDIATELY had a job as a personal aide to the Governor of our state---served in that capacity for 3-4 years. today he is a Navy pilot.

It will all work out---or it won't

I do remember something my dad told me a couple of times.--- usually when he was making me do something I didn't want to do. Dad was a child of the Great Depression and one of the "greatest Generation"

he said " Stephen--- when you were born you were completely defenseless and utterly dependent on your mom and I. Our job as parents is to take you from that point and develope you to the point where you are an independant man able to provide for the people dependant on YOU. that is our job as parents--- to create an adult"

So--- while Teds nephew shares a good deal of the blame.......
ultimately the nephews mother and father have failed to produce an adult---THEY are the ones largely to blame----and I look at the father as the most guilty party. Divorce or not--- what kind of a man fails his own son like that ?????
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I grew up playing competitive sports, and was good at it, and thrived on the competition, and I've coached youth sports. This whole not-keeping-score complaint is a phony bogeyman, and the complaints about not keeping score are usually made by people who have not coached youth sports, who are imagining some damage to the child psyche that just isn't happening.

Most dads coaching even t-ball or rookie ball or whatever, have a very strong competitive drive (many or most of them need to take a chill pill and remember that the 5-year olds are playing, not them); most kids playing t-ball have a good competitive drive; the kids keep score themselves, either for bragging rights - "Did you see me hit that home run?" - or "We won, 32-24", "No, we won, 28-14", etc.

The score-keeping begins in earnest at an early enough age, and for kids who just need the exercise and the outdoor activity there are rec programs where no one keeps score until a later age. No harm whatsoever is done by those programs.

Completely phony bogeyman, IMO.
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I look at the father as the most guilty party. Divorce or not--- what kind of a man fails his own son like that ?????Stephen
His father died when he was very young. When the step father came into the picture he wore out several pairs of boots from "motivating" my nephew. He tried his best to undo the years of coddling and empty rewarding. Just when it was starting to work his step father started to get an earful of the, "Oh, Ward! Please don't be so hard on the Beaver." discussions from his mother. To keep the peace he simply said, "Ok, that's your son. I'll stay out of disciplining him let you deal with him however you see fit." Today the kid is in jail.

The other day I discovered that he decided to become a professional shoplifter. I stumbled on this information because I was trying to help him get a car in his own name. I told him to go to the courthouse to find out if he had any outstanding fines but he gave me every excuse in the book as to why he wouldn't/couldn't do it. I figured that I'd do it on his behalf and that's when I discovered that he had an arrest warrant.

I told him that he needed to go to the courthouse to get that straightened out immediately. He said, "I don't really have time for that right now. I didn't do anything wrong and if I get stopped, I'll just tell them that I didn't know."How did he not know (or care) that the authorities can come to get him at any time without further notice? A WARRANT means that they are coming to take you to jail, RIGHT? Ok.. just making sure we're on the same page here.

Well over the weekend he had another day of reckoning when the cops picked him up on a completely unrelated situation. There was no "one phone call" like you see on TV. They didn't call his parents. And nobody knew where he was until 9AM when the courthouse opened up.

So we are getting to the bottom of this to see exactly what happened.
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Oof, spent the weekend?
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Maybe he's cut out for a life in construction after all....
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If 1964 is the end of the baby boomers and 1982 is the beginning of millennials, there's a donut hole, from 1965 to 1981, where do they fit in?
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If 1964 is the end of the baby boomers and 1982 is the beginning of millennials, there's a donut hole, from 1965 to 1981, where do they fit in?

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Well I'm in the baby boomer generation. But I certainly am not in the camp of getting anything handed to me. Well not too much.
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Yeah. They let him out on his own recognizance. One thing is evident though.. millennials aren't very good at stealing or covering their tracks.

I don't advocate any kind of theft, however, his level of stupidity was even more troubling to me. He went into the big box store and loaded up a shopping cart full of stuff from the electronics section totaling more than $1000 and he attempted to walk right out the front door among a crowd of people thinking that nobody would notice. The manager stopped him and asked if he had his receipt. My nephew made up a story about how he must have left it at the counter and he needed to go back and get it.

I don't know ANYONE who buys anything electronic without making sure they get the receipt and that they put it in a safe place. But that was his story and stuck to it. NOW- this was his opportunity to LEAVE THE STORE. But instead he decided to try the same thing again!



That gave the manager plenty of time to call the cops and that's when they got him.
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Sorry to hear that. Very troubling. Somehow it will have to (hopefully) get through to him that decisions have consequences, and also that personal effort lead to rewards. That's something you can't explain, but working kids begin to comprehend it over time. Hopefully the family can help get him on the right path, but he sounds checked-out and aimless.

Yesterday I was inspired by a young cashier in HD (though initially I was thinking "wth", honestly). He told me he came straight from school and would get done at 10:00pm. I asked him if his homework was done already. "Not yet, but I'll do it when I get home." I told him "Oh, good for you...and make sure it gets done." Seemed like a good kid.
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I had a 17 year old laborer this summer. Worked 8-2, then left for his second job, 4-midnight.
Now he's back in school, so it's just the 4-midnight job.

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