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Old 05-10-2015, 11:25 PM   #1
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Today I was talking to my nephew who is in his mid 20's. He has no job, no skills, and not enough exposure to know what he's interested in doing with his life.

We were just chatting it up for a while until he asked me, "How is it that people are able to get things like high paying jobs, big houses, fancy apartments, nice cars, nice clothes, and go on extravagant vacations?" And I simply said that they work their butt off and make sacrifices to get the things that they want in life. I was amazed at how could he be so clueless this late in life?

This conversation took be back to a few years ago when he worked for me for only 1 day and quit because he just couldn't handle working on a construction site. I didn't think anything of it at the time because I figured that he would just go do something else. But at the time I didn't realize that he was raised in a manner that is preventing him from being successful in anything that he tries.

I remember when he was born and how his mother raised him in a sissified manner most of his life. She disciplined him with hugs and kisses rather than putting a boot in his rear end. He was always told that he was special and was often rewarded for giving a half-effort in anything that he did. His mother always cleaned up behind him and never made him carry groceries into the house. He did all kinds of childish things that his father would never have tolerated had they not gotten divorced.

As a result, he spent 2 extra years in high school and never got into college. When his mother asked me to give him a job, he could handle the work just fine but he didn't feel comfortable working around the other men on the site. Typically as contractors we work in environments where strong language is used even if there isn't any profanity. Also we don't sugar coat or mince words. We are unapologetic in how tell each other exactly what we think or exactly what needs to be done. Apparently this is what got my nephew bent out of shape on any job that he had and when he came to work for me, he was ready to quit before lunch. I was able to talk him into finishing out the day but after getting his feelings hurt a couple of times, he was done.

When his mother got remarried, she hooked up with a strong responsible guy who made attempts to crack the whip and straighten my nephew out. As a result he started cleaning up behind himself and quit doing the other childish nonsense that he had become accustomed to. But he also whined and complained to his mother about being bossed around and that the bass in the stepfather's voice made him uncomfortable. Rather than telling my nephew to grow a pair and deal with it, his mother asked the new husband/stepfather to talk in a softer tone.

Fast forward to the present- My nephew can't figure out why Google won't hire him for a $70/hr. position or why the fast food joint won't accept him into the manager training program or why nobody every buys anything from him when he manages to land a job as a salesman. He attributes most of his screwups in life to circumstances rather than his own irresponsibility. He wrecked his car last winter because he was texting while driving but because of something that he saw on the internet, he "learned" that his accident was the local municipality's fault because the roads were not properly plowed.

So after our conversation today I think that he is starting to accept that his reality isn't what works in the real world. Hopefully I said something that made an impression on him.
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Old 05-11-2015, 12:04 AM   #2
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The only thing this kid realized is you have a bunch of stuff he wants...


for you to give it to him.....

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Sadly, there are going to be more and more kids like this. What is going to happen when all the "we don't keep score because every child is a winner!" kids get tossed out into the real world?
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The "as in your face" answer I can come up with.....

The Government will provide.

We are working towards that more and more each day.
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Sadly, there are going to be more and more kids like this. What is going to happen when all the "we don't keep score because every child is a winner!" kids get tossed out into the real world?
We just had this thread like a month ago didn't we?

The kids didn't come up with the not keeping score policy. Their parents did.

I played baseball at my school in the 80s. We didn't keep score until I think 2nd grade. I'm 32 and all on my own. Sky hasn't fallen yet.
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"She disciplined him with hugs and kisses rather than putting a boot in his rear end."

Powerful stuff...

But yeah, totally agree. There is nothing wrong with rewarding your child either I don't think, it should encourage them to keep on doing well. But I think that a proper disciplining where necessary is vital to a child's upbringing.
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I am only thirty, but at a young age I was taught that I had to work for everything I wanted in life. I actually had a conversation thanking my mother for the way I was raised yesterday. It is sad to see people my age who can't get it together enough to make a living.
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The whole entitlement thing doesn't bother me much.

However what really annoys me is what the schools are doing now my cousin has serious problems and refused to go to school.

The school did everything to try and give him an incentive to go. Enrolled in a class where they get to use school provided Ipad's to learn.

Only having to go half days, or only three days a week. Councilors, psychiatrists to try and help him none of that worked so now he's being home schooled and gets to sit and play video games most of the time.

If I could have done everything on a computer and got half of the stuff he got I wouldn't be making minimum wage trying to prove to an employer that filling out the paper work for an apprenticeship wouldn't be a waste of time.
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What is a millennial? How can one be in his mid 20's? What other groups are there other than baby boomers? I need me some education.
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What is a millennial? How can one be in his mid 20's? What other groups are there other than baby boomers? I need me some education.
I've heard a couple definitions. People born from 2000 up or 1990 and up.

If the latter is true I guess that makes me one?
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Generally, it would be folks born from 1982-2000. There is no definitive years, but this range is about right.
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I didn't realise it was such a large range.

If the rest of them want to screw around and get their panties in a twist every time someone has strong words more entertainment and job opportunities for me.
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least he's not a child molester..
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Generally, it would be folks born from 1982-2000. There is no definitive years, but this range is about right.
Sounds about right. I was born in '82 and had heard we are the oldest of the millennials. But there seems to be a huge difference from the '82 crowd and the mid to late '90s crowd.
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THANK GOD I'm not in that category. I'm a '79 baby. That makes me a 70's kid right?!? haha... Yeah there are some good ones still out there. One works for me 21 and an awesome worker, but his father is in the trade also so Its all about upbringing. I see Youngin' here on CT Is another one of a dying breed. Good to see Youngsters wanting to learn what the old dogs know. I'm still like a sponge around the ones that have been doing it for 40 years. So much knowledge. I guess you gotta have the will to learn once you have that reality check that you can't play video games for a living. Until then God help em.
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We just had this thread like a month ago didn't we?

The kids didn't come up with the not keeping score policy. Their parents did.

I played baseball at my school in the 80s. We didn't keep score until I think 2nd grade. I'm 32 and all on my own. Sky hasn't fallen yet.
They didnt keep score here till we played for the middle school in 7th grade.

Im the same age, Easy, and i see a hell of a big difference now in our lives between the guys whos dads explained they got their ass whipped at 5 and those whose dads said they were a special snow flake.
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They didnt keep score here till we played for the middle school in 7th grade.

Im the same age, Easy, and i see a hell of a big difference now in our lives between the guys whos dads explained they got their ass whipped at 5 and those whose dads said they were a special snow flake.
My parents told me I was special...................






in between the ass whippings
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in between the ass whippings
I was referring to little league/ pop warner with the ass whipping, but yeah me too. My mom always told us we were special and made a fuss over us. My dad laid out reality
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Every generation thinks the youth are lazy and don't want to work. It will work out. I remember when I was a kid and people thought one of my uncles was never going to make it. He has never had a 9-5 job in his life. He was still regularly missing holidays because he couldn't get home. Fast forward and he is by far the most successful person in the family.
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The whole entitlement thing doesn't bother me much.

However what really annoys me is what the schools are doing now my cousin has serious problems and refused to go to school.

The school did everything to try and give him an incentive to go. Enrolled in a class where they get to use school provided Ipad's to learn.

Only having to go half days, or only three days a week. Councilors, psychiatrists to try and help him none of that worked so now he's being home schooled and gets to sit and play video games most of the time.

If I could have done everything on a computer and got half of the stuff he got I wouldn't be making minimum wage trying to prove to an employer that filling out the paper work for an apprenticeship wouldn't be a waste of time.
I was listening to a radio talk show last Saturday about public schooling these days. The educator being interviewed was basically asserting that the average high school graduate today is about as prepared as someone who completed the seventh grade in 1960.

Sounds about right to me.

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