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Old 04-01-2019, 11:28 AM   #41
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You Believe In fairness, I'm guessing Fred. I think that is Noble but it is neither relevant or realistic.

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Yes John,I do believe in fairness. I also believe in cause and effect. Nothing happens randomly. If you want harmony at home,treat your household harmoniously. The same applies on a global level.
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Old 04-01-2019, 11:36 AM   #42
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So, here's a philosophical one for you. When God wiped out Sodom and Gomorrah, what was His goes around comes around? How about the wars He supported, conquering lands, etc? Any blow back on any of this stuff? It's a legit philosophical question.



I'm serious. If karma is universal and there is no way it can get everything right all the time, what's karma's karma?
Justified Violence is not something that one would think would be punished in philosophy.

Also, let's be real, he sent his only child to be born and died for our sins and to save us from Eternal damnation

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Yes John,I do believe in fairness. I also believe in cause and effect. Nothing happens randomly. If you want harmony at home,treat your household harmoniously. The same applies on a global level.
I Believe In fairness as a virtue, I do not believe anything is fair though. I think it is important to remember that and business as well as our personal lives. I do not teach my children that anything is fair, only that they should treat others with what they believe is fair

This country has done more for the world than any other country, ever.


In regards to immigration, I do not care that my ancestors were immigrants. They assimilated and became Americans and raised Americans and built a great country. The immigrants coming here now are doing nothing of the kind. The immigrants of yesterday from Mexico are nothing like the immigrants from Mexico now. I would know.

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There's a big difference in someone that comes here because they want our stuff, then return home to live phat, and someone that wants to be American.

And yes I do know as well.


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Yes John,I do believe in fairness. I also believe in cause and effect. Nothing happens randomly. If you want harmony at home,treat your household harmoniously. The same applies on a global level.
So how are we not being fair to China? Their list is quite long, which is what the dispute is all about...
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So how are we not being fair to China? Their list is quite long, which is what the dispute is all about...



Retribution is not always doled out by the injured party.
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Justified Violence is not something that one would think would be punished in philosophy.

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And there is the rub. Justified behavior doesn't get punished. Certainly the people on the short end of the stick would feel it unjustified.

The whole thing degenerates into a relative morality discussion, which never gets anywhere.
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Retribution is not always doled out by the injured party.
Retribution? So your definition of wanting to protect IP, currency manipulation, and operating on the same trade level (i.e. - we charge you what you charge us) is retribution?

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Retribution is not always doled out by the injured party.
And who is to say that a mass murderer isn't virtuous in the cosmic scheme of things? If all these people are right, that the US us what's wrong with the world, we should be encouraging murder, disease, famine here instead of free food, free medicine, and plenty more laws nd restrictions.

Who is on the right side there? Who is doing the good and who is just compounding the problem?

I have my ideas, what does karma say?
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Who is doing the good and who is just compounding the problem?

I have my ideas, what does karma say?


There are times the best of people do bad,and the evil ones do good. Al Capone is an example of that.


As far as what Karma says. This example works for me.


Every act rewards itself, or, in other words, integrates itself, in a twofold manner; first, in the thing, or in real nature; and secondly, in the circumstance, or in apparent nature. Men call the circumstance the retribution. The causal retribution is in the thing, and is seen by the soul. The retribution in the circumstance is seen by the understanding; it is inseparable from the thing, but is often spread over a long time, and so does not become distinct until after many years. The specific stripes may follow late after the offence, but they follow because they accompany it. Crime and punishment grow out of one stem. Punishment is a fruit that unsuspected ripens within the flower of the pleasure which concealed it. Cause and effect, means and ends, seed and fruit, cannot be severed; for the effect already blooms in the cause, the end preexists in the means, the fruit in the seed.

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