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Old 03-30-2019, 11:01 AM   #1
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They could use some wins. They will be in a world of hurt if the US actually shuts the Border down and enforces it. That place is one of the most dangerous places in the world, extremely corrupt and extremely povertous.



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Any time a company shifts from China to Mexico, that's a win for us.

Mexico isn't much of a strategic threat, China is.
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Any time a company shifts from China to Mexico, that's a win for us.

Mexico isn't much of a strategic threat, China is.



True,however,China was not much of a threat 25 yrs. ago. Cheap labor / goods are what consumers want.
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True,however,China was not much of a threat 25 yrs. ago. Cheap labor / goods are what consumers want.
25 years ago China was a threat as well. We were just encouraging it still. They started buying technology and stealing IP almost as soon as trading was legal. In the early 80s, we still heavily restricted all but obsolete technology transfers and equipment purchases supporting high tech. There are now effectively no restrictions outside of defense systems.

All the assembly operations for PCs, for instance, left the US in the 90s for cheaper China. China has forced technology transfer as a requirement for access to their markets.

Not Mexico.
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China will be the world power in 15-30 years. Anyone who can't see that is not paying attention. They are still very communist but they have added some capitalist elements as well

They have massive national pride as well, unlike about half of this country. The whole world will be very socialized at that time, and guys like me will be apologizing to our grandchildren.

Maybe we will be more like Norway and still have a lot of national pride again, although be it a very socialized and pathetic country absent of Liberty.

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Next Oil Domino To Fall? Mexico Becomes Net Oil Importer For First Time In 50 Years

Decline in oil production and now they need to buy/import oil.
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Pay attention to the so-called Belt and Road Action Plan of China. Their play for world dominance is serious and accelerated.
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And Trump is trying to do the same thing while the left hamstrings him at every turn.
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China was supposed to overtake us two decades ago...

Capital goes where it is treated best... we're it right now... the energy sector is driving a lot well... a dramatic increase in manufacturing in the USA that supposedly couldn't happen... happened...

It's part of the reason why they keep pushing back the China dominance theory and is all over the board...

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Check out this moving chart, very sobering. It's even more sobering to realize that this occurred thanks to our government and big business working hand in hand to ship our manufacturing industries over to China.

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China will be the world power in 15-30 years. Anyone who can't see that is not paying attention. They are still very communist but they have added some capitalist elements as well

They have massive national pride as well, unlike about half of this country. The whole world will be very socialized at that time, and guys like me will be apologizing to our grandchildren.

Maybe we will be more like Norway and still have a lot of national pride again, although be it a very socialized and pathetic country absent of Liberty.

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Will closing the border with Mexico for an hour,a day or next two years be a good thing for the U.S. or a bad thing ?
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Will closing the border with Mexico for an hour,a day or next two years be a good thing for the U.S. or a bad thing ?
If it convinces Mexico to stop the flow at their southern border....it's a fantastic idea.
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Will closing the border with Mexico for an hour,a day or next two years be a good thing for the U.S. or a bad thing ?
It'll likely be both. But I think they need us more than we need them. And I'm sure some things will be worked out so we can still do transactions with them under monitored conditions.

Something has to be done. What they're doing violates their own laws. Having the caravans cross over Mexico's southern border is illegal by ther own laws. But they allow them to do it. And not only do they allow them to cross, they alliow safe passage through the country to get to our borders.

What do you think Canada would think if we let Mexican caravans form and cut through the US and attack the Canadian borders?
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China was supposed to overtake us two decades ago...
Whoever thought that was foolish.
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Check out this moving chart, very sobering. It's even more sobering to realize that this occurred thanks to our government and big business working hand in hand to ship our manufacturing industries over to China.
Not exactly. There certainly are companies like Wal-Mart, Home depot, and Lowe's that will take a product being made in the US and ask a Chinese supplier if they can supply them at a lower price. China doesn't care about patents, so sure they can.

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Just to get a bit of reality out there, China steals IP. So does France and Israel. Industrial espionage is a very profitable way to run your country.

China's dumps products in the US. It's an unfair trade practice, but it is done all the time. That $228 LED 50" TV from China isn't exactly fairly priced in the scheme of things.

And the $1 scientific calculator I bought? Definitely below cost.
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Whoever thought that was foolish.
It was the "experts" at the time... same as now... you don't remember this?... why do you think they give ranges in decades now for their guesstimates?...

Even Jaws supposition is 15-30 years... there's much more to it than just IP theft and cheap labor... If there wasn't we wouldn't have had a resurgence of manufacturing that the "experts" told us was not possible and considered the new normal just a mere couple of years ago... this DESPITE the IP theft/cheap labor...

To me, the biggest threat for our country is from within...

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