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Old 03-06-2019, 07:10 PM   #21
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If you wanted to fix your car, you got the Bentley manual, and the Haynes manual, and between the two of those you would have about 80% of the information needed for the repair. If you had a vw, the idiot's guide to vw repair was your bible.

You could get additional intel from the guy at the parts counter.

Then you'd just tear into it and make things work.





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The parts guys used to know their chit back then , you could throw a part on the counter and they would know the part number without looking it up.

And they had the biggest book you ever saw , at least 8’ long
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Old 03-06-2019, 07:16 PM   #22
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Oh yeah , I just remembered having to use maps to find jobs . Used to have to get detailed atlases of every area that I worked in . Now just type in the address and a voice will guide you to the door ( I have a sexy English lady on mine)
In the olden days there was always a Thomas Guide map book in the truck. Same on the fire dept used.

The only voice activated one was if the guy sitting next to you knew where we were going....
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I just spent the last hour tracking down a solution to a problem that I didn't even know existed. I came up with a widget in my head, sat my butt down at the cafe here, and started googling. Within 30 minutes and some pretty well honed keyword searches, I found exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately, I couldn't get it until, gasp, next week!
I could have found it in 15 minutes. My Google-fu is strong.
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What were the books called that you could look up a person's name and find out their address, spouse, children, and job?

Once you had their address you could look up the address and find out who their neighbors were as well.

I remember that someone I knew thought it was too much information for the public to be able to obtain that easily. If they only had known what was coming...
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What were the books called that you could look up a person's name and find out their address, spouse, children, and job?

Once you had their address you could look up the address and find out who their neighbors were as well.

I remember that someone I knew thought it was too much information for the public to be able to obtain that easily. If they only had known what was coming...
sounds like it was the Thomas something or other before they became Thomasnet.
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There used to be a reverse directory where you could look up the phone number or address and find info about everyone who lived on the same street

I used to do electrical service work and we had street atlas's, they had an index in the back where you looked up the street then found the coordinates and page number like page 10 G6 and found the street. Every county had one. If you worked in multiple counties you needed multiple atlas's

We had beepers and had to find a pay phone to call the office, very hard since I worked in the inner city and all of the phones were pissed on or had something else on the handset.

We used Chilton books for info on fixing cars or were lucky enough to have a service manual for your car
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For car repair it was the Haynes manual, i still have one for each vehicle i have owned, well thumbed with oily corners.
For getting a date, as already said, you had to get out and actually talk to a girl.
Lots of maps for getting about and taking pride in knowing where in the heck you were going.
For banking we had to enter this building where they kept the money,when it was open, in fact i still do.

For researching products / methods etc it seems like we had our own "go to" person who we thought had the right answers. I had forgot about clipping the magazine ad and requesting more info.
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My service area now would cost thousands a month in phone book costs if I wanted the same exposure I get for free from the internet. I had a 1/4 page and think it was $400 a month. The newspapers cost me $400 a month also until the website replaced that advertising.


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used to be product information cards in the magazines, you would circle the number which corresponded to the ad in the magazine

JLC magazine was one of the few with any helpful information and it was call New England Journal of Light Construction and it looked like a newspaper and came out 6 times a year.
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I still put great faith in those Chilton books.

Before the internet people had fewer options. It was better for service providers.
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If you lived in Podunk, you pretty much had to get new England journal of light construction, or just keep on in blissful ignorance. .
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Yeah, yeah. Paper maps, answering machine which called the pager so you could hit a pay phone to get a message and call the client. That was high-tech.

I wrote a database app that included turn-by-turn instructions to the customer location, typical travel time, service history for the machine, their kids' and dogs' names, and whatever other esoteric info I might need to make it look like I was on top of the game.

That's long gone, along with the 5.25" floppy drives it ran on.

Grow young, you old buzzards. I'm doing the lazy backstroke these days, with apps that'll change your underwear for you and 24/7 access to the world. Don't miss those days one bit.
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When I was a kid if you wanted info on your favorite band you had to put some time into it!!!

Thumb through magazines at the grocery store, and buy one once in a while! Watch hours of MTV and hope to hear something. Listen to the radio and hope up hear something!!!

Now one keyword will give more info than one can handle. I hate to think of running my business without my stupid smart phone.
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Research was done by phone or by mail.



Customer service was better back then...you didn't have to press # for English. Chances were, people actually answered the phone and if they couldn't help you...found someone who could.



I think getting and keeping business was considered more important back then.


Although rare it can still be found.

My son as you know is in the police academy, he only has two uniforms. Needed to find a cleaner that could have them cleaned by next day. Had major issues with our regular dry cleaners, so we decided to try another. Not only did they have them cleaned SAME DAY, they sent my son a hand written letter thanking him for trusting them and using their service. In the mail. Not a big thing, but I'm still in awe over it. Needless to say they will be our go-to from here on out.


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it's not just the internet. you have to throw cell phones & cameras in the mix.



to be on a job and need to find something & then be able to call the company in a few seconds & send a pic if necessary makes life easier.



what we did before the internet, like many guys have said we talked.



meeting at the bar after work was not always about getting wasted.



i knew i'd run in to so & so or i could leave word that i was looking for an individual. or put the word out that i needed or was looking for something and many times it showed up at the house that night or i got or gave a phone call that stuff is available i'll drop it off at your job in the morning.



i also 100% agree that customer service used to be WAY better and it was generally pretty easy to get a rep on the phone who knew what he was talking about.



but the internet & cell phones are responsible for creating most of the technology for all manner of widgets & gidgets that we don't even know we need yet....


And to add to this: World policy has been made over a golf ball.


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We lived by the Thomas guide.


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There are a lot of pitfalls with the onset of social media, whatever definition you side with. Having said that, although there may be nefarious ways it has been used/manipulated, there is no denying the fact that it has brought so many people together, to form a voice.

Just take a look at what is happening in Algeria. Never before have the masses had their voices heard---let alone acted upon.

For all its negatives, I think it still is a positive. Just one a**holes opinion.
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I have a love/hate relationship with the internet.

Love that the world is at your disposal with a touch of a keystroke.

Hate how it has changed the way of life for all the reasons mentioned already.

"Social Media" will be the downfall of it all.

However, this place (CT) has given me a lot of new information (ideas/methods) that would have taken a lifetime to accumulate otherwise. That's how I got here, learning how to do a walk in shower correctly. I'm still waiting on the callback from the first one I did on my own, wrong , due to a poor teacher.

I guess the last paragraph could be put in the "What keeps you coming back to CT" Thread. In fact, I think I'll post it over there also.
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Although rare it can still be found.

My son as you know is in the police academy, he only has two uniforms. Needed to find a cleaner that could have them cleaned by next day. Had major issues with our regular dry cleaners, so we decided to try another. Not only did they have them cleaned SAME DAY, they sent my son a hand written letter thanking him for trusting them and using their service. In the mail. Not a big thing, but I'm still in awe over it. Needless to say they will be our go-to from here on out.


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Getting a FAX machine in the office revolutionized the bidding process. Prior to that subs and suppliers would have to type up their proposals well in advance and send it to you via mail or dropped off with the price left blank, then on bid day they would call you their number. Others who were more last minute would call with a price then you would have to hand write their entire scope of work as you discussed with them over the phone.

The FAX changed all that, and that machine really got a workout on bid day, spitting out sub and supplier quotes on that crummy thin rolled paper. Really no need for a FAX machine now, with email and scanning.

Ever see the Sweets Catalogs? They were like the encyclopedia set for construction materials, organized by CSI numbering. Used to keep big rack of those in the office and you updated them annually, quite expensive. Also had tons of supplier binders where you could see the details on their various products

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