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Old 01-24-2019, 08:17 AM   #21
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Other than the trash thing it sounds like someone just needs to take a midol and get over it.

Padding hours is immediate firing. Boss will figure that out. Just say, "yo bossman, might wanna check so and so's hours" and be done with it.

Whining to the boss, will probably piss the boss off... At you.
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Old 01-24-2019, 10:21 AM   #22
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My lead (who's ****ing skiing in Tahoe right now!!!) would be on top of any of that ****. Allows me to be a nice guy. I shouldn't have to play the bad cop. That's what hired leads are for.


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This post is confusing.

Are you a sub, or an employee?

Padding hours is theft, period.

Whether the boss wants to hear it from you is another matter. If I was an employee, AND I HAD ABSOLUTE PROOF, not just thinking the guys didn't get enough $#it done the day before, I would tell him.

If I was subbing for a guy, I don't know. His business is his business, as long as I get paid, I'm not gonna go around and fix everybody's fvkkt up $#it. I have enough to do already.


If you've been there 8 months, you're probably low man on the totem pole. That means you get to clean up. If the guys are pigs, not your problem. If you're getting paid to clean up, clean up. Unless you're the super, it ain't your business.

And take a damn shower, FerFuchsAche. I've worked construction for 20+ years, and still haven't missed a shower day. 2 a day for me. It ain't that hard.


Music is not your concern. I'm a Classic Country guy myself, and I've suffered through YEARS of truly garbage music. Baby-Boomer rock, (fvxx I hate that crap) smooth jazz, New Country, whatever. I survived. Just get to work.

Now that I'm the boss, I have a couple rules. Don't bring your dogs to the job site, don't spit ANYWHERE near me or my job site, and if your music is disruptive, it's gotta go.

I had an installer in just the other day. He's in his 50's and first thing he does is turns on his baby-boomer rock. It didn't affect my work, so I let it go. Still got $#it done.

Smoking likewise. Some guys need it. I have two rules about it. It better not create a fire hazard in a half-built structure, and I better not see the butts laying around. But if you're the new guy, it's not your concern.
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Hard and fast rule. If it's a Reno of a tiny bath and you've got non stop gas that smells like a skunk crawled up your butt and died, gtf out of the room.
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What's taking a shower got to do with this topic?
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What's taking a shower got to do with this topic?



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2. Cleanliness

I am far from a saint. I've gone the better part of the month wearing the 2 or 3 sets of clothes.



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Ouch, I missed that.
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"I've been working for the company I am subcontracted with now for nearly 8 months"

Based on the OP's line in the first paragraph, it sounds like he's a sub for the GC. Maybe. And, it sounds like he is complaining about the GC's employees and/or other subs.

Here's a hint: messengers usually get shot, especially by GC's who really want you to just do your job and not be a troublemaker.

If some of these etiquette offenders are your pals, then mention something to them off the job site, not on it when others can hear.
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Had a Guatemalan kid Carlos for a few months when I was still driving the truck and installing full time. He sat in between me and my helper.

After about A week I realized he hardly ever showered or washed his clothes. He was given a choice to either smell like a normal person, ride in the back of the cube van, or get another job. He picked option 1.


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So, do you need a shower? I kind of got that impression. But....if you don't like the smell of cigarettes, you probably don't like bad odors.

There are two ways this is going to go. The owner is oblivious and will make you a lead guy. Or, they will let you go, because you are rocking the boat. Of course, if you are really a sub, that's not a big deal. I suspect you are a sub that works as an employee.

Oh well. If you really notice those things and don't like to work that way, there will be plenty of jobs for you. Everyone is hiring, the right guy.
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Not your Circus, Not your Monkeys. Just a spectator getting paid to watch the big show. Sit down, shut up, enjoy. Change seats or leave the tent.
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GC I'm subbing for right now absolutely has to get his Rush Limbaugh spittle-flinging fix at top volume every day. Gives me a headache after the first half hour or so. Whatever, I deal with it. Shrug.
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GC has good taste.
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I don't disagree with much of what Rush has to say. I have a problem with how he says it.

He was much easier to listen to ten years ago.
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I don't disagree with much of what Rush has to say. I have a problem with how he says it.

He was much easier to listen to ten years ago.
You just got older and crankier.
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Not your Circus, Not your Monkeys. Just a spectator getting paid to watch the big show. Sit down, shut up, enjoy. Change seats or leave the tent.
LOL, the other one I like is "Not your rodeo, not your clowns."

Depends if you're dealing with monkeys or clowns
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First I wanted to say thanks for everyone giving their opinion. I was overworked and over stressed last night and just felt trapped in this nightmare. So thanks for the advice.

I suppose I should clarify some things even though the MarkJames figured it out. I am technically an employee for my boss. I consider myself a sub and as would he because I pay my own taxes. (I have a small business that I do "side-work" on, and there is no reason for my boss to pay all the taxes to have me on the books).

The comment I made about my clothes was a bit of an exaggeration, and apologize for that. I generally shower when possible, but there have been times where exhaustion and lack of funds prevented me from doing my weekly laundromat trip. Call me a pig pen, but I'd rather work next to someone with a little bit of BO than the smell to have to breathe in second hand smoke.

I am sure the other concerns will work themselves out. Even though I am only 8 months fresh, I am not the newest member of the crew. I don't mind cleaning at the end of the day because it insures that I can say the site was clean before I left, and anything that happens after I leave for the evening and arrive in the morning are messes that I cannot be held accountable for.

Thanks again. Gotta get ready for a long day tomorrow. The "quick flip" we just started is now a whole new re-wire job. Starting the day tackling the beast that is the 3 ton safe in the basement that needs to be removed.

I'll be lurking these forums in the future. Hopefully I can find my foot here and continue to learn from everyone here and give my greenhorn opinion every once and awhile.
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I suppose I should clarify some things even though the MarkJames figured it out. I am technically an employee for my boss. I consider myself a sub and as would he because I pay my own taxes. (I have a small business that I do "side-work" on, and there is no reason for my boss to pay all the taxes to have me on the books).

........but there have been times where exhaustion and lack of funds prevented me from doing my weekly laundromat trip. Call me a pig pen.


I'll be lurking these forums in the future. Hopefully I can find my foot here and continue to learn from everyone here and give my greenhorn opinion every once and awhile.
You should look into getting on his books legitimately, since you state that you are "technically" an employee.
Unless you are getting much better than wages from this guy, you are costing yourself a bunch of money. He should pay the tax burden not you. You might find it easier to cover the laundromat costs.

Now then if you are charging him a rate similar to a subcontractor, (which would be more than an employee's rate), you need to get an increase so you won't have to worry about the cost at the laundromat.

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Is that possible?
It is possible that you got older, not very likely that you could get any crankier.

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