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Old 06-27-2020, 07:23 PM   #21
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Cities are actually a lot more sustainable than suburbs, exurbs, and even living out in the middle of nowhere. Much less infrastructure needed per person in the city. In a city one hundred people need a couple blocks of sidewalks to walk to a store, while in the boonies a couple people need a hundred miles of road to get to a store.


If I wanted to be a farmer, I'd have been a farmer. I don't want to be a farmer.
Do you have any idea how incredibly dumb this sounds?

Especially now.

LLok at the cities... me and my little rural area havent had a hiccup.

The biggest problem is the big time city folk running the country... how about just mind your own ****ing business and Ill mind mine...
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Old 06-27-2020, 07:27 PM   #22
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All the electric for the millions of people in NYC will come from?
Electric for lights, subways, busses, cars, delivery trucks, garbage trucks, elevators etc
27000 people per square mile how many solar panels and where would they go?
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Old 06-29-2020, 02:42 AM   #23
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Cities are actually a lot more sustainable than suburbs, exurbs, and even living out in the middle of nowhere. Much less infrastructure needed per person in the city. In a city one hundred people need a couple blocks of sidewalks to walk to a store, while in the boonies a couple people need a hundred miles of road to get to a store.





If I wanted to be a farmer, I'd have been a farmer. I don't want to be a farmer.
Not to beat a dead horse.

However, we need very little infrastructure. A crappy road would get me to town.

If I had to we could raise and grow most of our food. Jeez, from spring on, we could survive on just forage from our property if we had to.

We don't need garbage service or constant policing or public transportation.

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Old 06-30-2020, 02:36 PM   #24
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What if you don't want to live in a city? You don't want to be forced to farm, but you're okay with forcing people in the city?
Who said anything about forcing anyone to do anything? I just pointed out that cities are much more efficient per person which is why they exist.
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You grow food in the cities? They'd be dead in a few weeks.
I never said we don't need farmers, just that I don't want to be one. We'd also be dead if we were only farmers and didn't have any doctors. We'd also be bored to death if we only had farmers. I kinda like some of the other stuff that doesn't come from farms, like technology, entertainment, products, etc.
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where do you live?
Pretty close to a city, I guess within city limits but I have a house with a driveway and yard but still walking distance to a lot of good bars and restaurants, and a quick bus ride if I want to go downtown (not that I do at the moment, but it was nice for going out before all this).
I've also got a place up in the mountains, so yeah I'm not exactly a city slicker either, but I'm definitely not afraid of the city.
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All the electric for the millions of people in NYC will come from?
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27000 people per square mile how many solar panels and where would they go?
Power plants?
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However, we need very little infrastructure. A crappy road would get me to town.

If I had to we could raise and grow most of our food. Jeez, from spring on, we could survive on just forage from our property if we had to.

We don't need garbage service or constant policing or public transportation.
True, and it's not a bad way to live. But could you see everyone doing it? There are a lot of roles for people in a society and it's about more than just each for themselves. You can farm. But are you going to develop the internet or computers from thin air out there on the farm? The scientists working on that stuff can do it because they don't have to spend their days farming to survive.
But to your point of environmental impact, miles of even crappy road has an impact, and especially if it's for one or two people. You are in a position to replace that impact living closer to the land, but the lawyer who lives in a suburban McMansion and drives an Escalade 45 minutes into the office has a bigger footprint than the apartment living city person who uses the subway.
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Do you have any idea how incredibly dumb this sounds?

Especially now.

LLok at the cities... me and my little rural area havent had a hiccup.

The biggest problem is the big time city folk running the country... how about just mind your own ****ing business and Ill mind mine...
At the moment, yeah...but Covid is getting out into the countryside and it's killing a lot of people there too.
As far as "city folk" running the country, 80% of the population is urban, but because of the Senate and the Electoral College the rural 20% has an outsized amount of power and control on the government.
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I never said we don't need farmers, We'd also be bored to death if we only had farmers. .
We absolutely need farmers.
Without them, there would be no farmer's daughters.



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