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Old 04-24-2015, 09:20 AM   #21
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My buddies and I used to get our paintball guns and re enact the old Wild West standoffs. Put a couple paintballs in our guns pace off and turn and shoot. We would draw blood some some of them. But man it was fun.
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:02 AM   #22
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Are today's parents justified in being more cautious & concerned, and if so, why and when? If not, why not? I go back and forth on this. Yesterday we had a 12-year old kid shatter her jaw and lose teeth riding an electric scooter...just made me start thinking about this.

Maybe today's advances in "technology" help to do more dangerous things aside from the benefits of modern technology. More potent drugs, synthetic ones, stealthy conversations (internet, phone, etc.), roofies, whatever ....it's much easier to lose track of kids in this day and age, even when you're trying. In the old days, even as your kid was shoved outside to "go play" and "find something to do", it was easier to have a sense of what they were up to.

And here comes another one...powdered alcohol. Just wait for the tragic side effects (like death) of that.

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We have "stranger danger" and a continual string of child abductions/ murders that has created our current climate. That fear is the basis for most of this, and not all of it unfounded. I just don't see how they can criminalize "free range" parenting.
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I was lucky to be in a small town on the Mississippi in those days.We lived in a subdivision with some woods and caves near by.Spent a lot of times in those woods and caves.Not sure my parents knew the caves were there.There was a road nearby with a gas station where the only guy there pumped your gas ,checked your oil and washed your windows.We would go up to get a pop and when he was outside we would steal a pack of smokes and a couple books of matches to go back to the caves and smoke.The only things I ever stoled in my life and regret it now.
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Are today's parents justified in being more cautious & concerned, and if so, why and when? If not, why not? I go back and forth on this. Yesterday we had a 12-year old kid shatter her jaw and lose teeth riding an electric scooter...just made me start thinking about this.

Maybe today's advances in "technology" help to do more dangerous things aside from the benefits of modern technology. More potent drugs, synthetic ones, stealthy conversations (internet, phone, etc.), roofies, whatever ....it's much easier to lose track of kids in this day and age, even when you're trying. In the old days, even as your kid was shoved outside to "go play" and "find something to do", it was easier to have a sense of what they were up to.

And here comes another one...powdered alcohol. Just wait for the tragic side effects (like death) of that.
`Kids get hurt all the time. You can't legislate kids to be safe. They are curious, careless and inexperienced. This is where they get experience, cause it certainly isn't in the classroom.

As for abductions, it's mostly fear based. Do they happen? Of course. But the 24/7 new media broadcast every little thing all over the country. So if someone in California gets abducted I hear about it in Connecticut. Whereas when we were kids abduction news was a local thing. If it happened in the state next to you you didn't hear about it.

Having parents arrested because they let their children play outside unsupervised is just insane.
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Being 23, it wasn't that long ago when I was out on the front street every night playing hockey with the neighbourhood kids. We'd be out there for hours. Every night our moms would call us in for super and we'd yell, "Just a minute!!!" When she called for the third time it meant we'd better come or we'd be in deep s***.

Now I almost never see street hockey anywhere. Kids are too busy playing hockey on their Xbox. The few times I do see them playing, usually their just standing around. When we played, you'd think the Stanley Cup was on the line. It's honestly pretty sad to see.

I still jump at the chance to get a game of street hockey going . Though today opportunities are few and far between. Good thing I got my share in when I was a kid.
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This topic is near and dear to my heart because I have 3 little boys. I would LOVE to just send them outside to play - our neighborhood is safe, we know a lot of people and my kids are very responsible. However, other parents get really worried if they see unsupervised kids. I've already had 2 random strangers make comments to me when they saw my kids on the sidewalk - 2 doors down the street - and they didn't see me with them. (I was working in my garage with the door open!) My kids weren't bothering anybody or doing anything wrong. It makes me crazy!

Fortunately, I'm in the process of buying a house a few miles away that's in a small gated community with a little lake, 100 acres of shared forest and a homemade BMX track. It's kid heaven and the kids are EXPECTED to get out and play - catch frogs, ride bikes, build forts. I'm so excited and crossing my fingers that the deal will work out. Kids need to be kids - muddy, active, creative kids!
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This topic is near and dear to my heart because I have 3 little boys. I would LOVE to just send them outside to play - our neighborhood is safe, we know a lot of people and my kids are very responsible. However, other parents get really worried if they see unsupervised kids. I've already had 2 random strangers make comments to me when they saw my kids on the sidewalk - 2 doors down the street - and they didn't see me with them. (I was working in my garage with the door open!) My kids weren't bothering anybody or doing anything wrong. It makes me crazy!

Fortunately, I'm in the process of buying a house a few miles away that's in a small gated community with a little lake, 100 acres of shared forest and a homemade BMX track. It's kid heaven and the kids are EXPECTED to get out and play - catch frogs, ride bikes, build forts. I'm so excited and crossing my fingers that the deal will work out. Kids need to be kids - muddy, active, creative kids!
I agree.It's just a shame we have to go to these lengths these days to make sure they are safe.
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Some of the dopiest people I know, didn't get to do squat when they were kids. As the saying goes "What don't kill you, only makes you stronger".

Bones heal faster when young than when old.
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I've broken both arms and a foot. Not all at once but that's my score.
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I've broken both arms and a foot. Not all at once but that's my score.
I've never broke a bone! [knock on wood]

Bunch of stitches and scars tho! The worse scar is on my face . Left cheek . 60 stitches . I got it from a swing set when I was 7 . But when people ask ? I give a different story every time ..

You can't have a scar on your face like Tony Montana and not have cool story behind it!!
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I've never broke a bone! [knock on wood]

Bunch of stitches and scars tho! The worse scar is on my face . Left cheek . 60 stitches . I got it from a swing set when I was 7 . But when people ask ? I give a different story every rime ..

You can't have a scar on your face like Tony Montana and not have cool story behind it!!
You can't have a face like Chuck Norris with a scar from a swing either.
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One of my broken arms came from jumping out of a swing.
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I've never broke a bone! [knock on wood]

Bunch of stitches and scars tho! The worse scar is on my face . Left cheek . 60 stitches . I got it from a swing set when I was 7 . But when people ask ? I give a different story every time ..

You can't have a scar on your face like Tony Montana and not have cool story behind it!!
Same here. Worst scar was in my eye. On the cornea. 13 stitches.
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I've already had 2 random strangers make comments to me when they saw my kids on the sidewalk - 2 doors down the street - and they didn't see me with them. (I was working in my garage with the door open!) My kids weren't bothering anybody or doing anything wrong. It makes me crazy!
What did you tell them? I know what I would have and I doubt they would have liked it much. Kids are like puppies, they need to run and frolic to learn how their bodies work. Kids nowadays will only know how to work their damn thumbs. It pisses me off so much. My wife is a nervous type. She's always hovering and wanting to know where the kids are and watch them do stuff so they don't get hurt. i try to tell her that her watching them will only get them hurt when she's not around but she just doesn't believe it. It's funny too cause she grew up rural in the back fields all the time and I'm a city kid.
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No offense to anyone, but I think a lot of parents are over protective freaks. Good judgement comes from the exercise of questionable judgement. You can't really be prepared to be an independent adult if you were a closely guarded kid - you aren't generating an experience base to work from.

A more or less short list of experience gained:

Broken hand, leg, toes, various scars (maybe a half dozen or a dozen?), a pretty extensive collection of sprains, strains, and tears, some pretty good kidney damage, and miscellaneous tooth incidents.

I don't really pay attention to this stuff, so I'm pretty sure I'm missing some things. A couple weeks ago my GF saw bruises around my waist - I didn't have a clue how they got there. It took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out - it involved dragging a snow plow across a parking lot. A little pain never hurt anyone...
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I've broken both arms and a foot. Not all at once but that's my score.
I'm up to 7 (or is it eight?) broken bones all at different times.

On a different note, I also had a few near misses of the "final" sort. Anybody else here have a running count of those kind? I'm up to 5 or so. I try not to remember them.
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Here's one for you - when I was a kid, my dentist used one of the old, slow drills that wasn't cooled with water. He didn't use Novocaine for fillings.
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No offense to anyone, but I think a lot of parents are over protective freaks. Good judgement comes from the exercise of questionable judgement. You can't really be prepared to be an independent adult if you were a closely guarded kid - you aren't generating an experience base to work from.

A more or less short list of experience gained:

Broken hand, leg, toes, various scars (maybe a half dozen or a dozen?), a pretty extensive collection of sprains, strains, and tears, some pretty good kidney damage, and miscellaneous tooth incidents.

I don't really pay attention to this stuff, so I'm pretty sure I'm missing some things. A couple weeks ago my GF saw bruises around my waist - I didn't have a clue how they got there. It took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out - it involved dragging a snow plow across a parking lot. A little pain never hurt anyone...

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