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Old 10-08-2012, 09:09 AM   #41
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I agree with the "right fit". About 10 years ago a friend/contractor bought a Dalmatian. He was a single guy who was busy working and bought this dog who just sat in the house. Being a dog lover I would visit him periodically and see the dog. It went mentally insane, I'm not kidding, the dog went nuts from lack of play time.
Dalmatians tend to be a little nutty to begin with. They were "coach" dogs - chased people, horses, etc out of they way as coaches went through the streets. That's why they're associated with the old horse drawn fire equipment - they'd clear the street ahead. Some dogs really don't like Dalmations - maybe it's the spots
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:13 AM   #42
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Staffy = Staffordshire Terrier
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I had a female that was a very docile dog toward humans and she was picture perfect just like the one I looked up in the encyclopedia at the time, looked identical.

I have also seen her head morph into all teeth, muscle and a pair of evil vicious eyes when dealing with another dog. Man! Think of a cyclone with teeth and muscle!

They make me think of a mix bteween an American Bull Terrier and and English Bulldog.
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My last dog was a pressa canario. She was not registered and probably not pure. Big big baby! I'll get another for sure. Protective & intimidating
I think I had one of those for a short while once. I was told it was a rare and expensive breed of Mastiff. I remember thinking that didn't sound right, but thought maybe it was a long snouted Mastiff.

At some point many years later, I came across the breed pressa canario in print. When I saw the pic, I decided my cousin I got the dog from , or his vet that told him this, was mistaken.

That thing had a growl that would shake the walls. I decided I did not need him at the time. At that time, I had a 2 or 3 Dobies, a pit or two and ( I think) a shepard pit mix, not ot mention two young boys.
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We have had two dog around our kids since they were born, a Border Collie and an Australian Shepherd. Both are great family dogs, tolerant of being climbed on dressed up and having their tails pulled. We try to prevent all this of course, but kids are kids. Of the two breeds the Aussie is more of a natural at it.

Both of ours were shelter dogs, we got them as puppies. I would be less inclined to get an adult dog at the shelter, but this is because we also have cats and chickens and adult dogs may have established behaviors with respect to other animals.

My daughter had been bitten once, by my brother in laws shih-tzu. No warning, just a bite on the face out of nowhere. Good thing I was not there when that happened.
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FYI, there are 9 Ancient dog (primitive) breeds and they can be quite different from other breeds. Genetically each of these is very distinct from all other dogs (for instance, even though Shiba Inus look like small Akitas, they are more primitive than Akitas and are more difficult in some ways):

Shar-Pei
Shiba Inu
Chow Chow
Akita
Shiba Inu
Basenji
Siberian Husky
Alaskan Malemute
Afghan Hound
Saluki

I tried to copy the actual ancestry chart, but no dice. The info is from "Lessons learned from the Dog Genome" I think it can be read on line, but if would probably be tough to find.
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I had a Vizsla as a kid, great dog.

Border Collie is very smart, too smart and active as heck.

My current dog is a Karelian Bear dog/Lab. His mother was half black lab. Good dog, smart, protective and fairly large, I think he is around 110 - 120 lbs now.



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Dalmatians tend to be a little nutty to begin with. They were "coach" dogs - chased people, horses, etc out of they way as coaches went through the streets. That's why they're associated with the old horse drawn fire equipment - they'd clear the street ahead. Some dogs really don't like Dalmations - maybe it's the spots
I really should be working...... but it's interesting to learn about these different breeds and the history behind them.
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Thanks for the opinions and input guys, this has been a cool thread. My kids are reading it also so thanks for keeping it clean. Lol

Emily is really enjoying the photos of your pups!

If you have a chance check out a breed called a "Briard". Kind of an interesting dog.
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Thanks for the opinions and input guys, this has been a cool thread. My kids are reading it also so thanks for keeping it clean. Lol

Emily is really enjoying the photos of your pups!

If you have a chance check out a breed called a "Briard". Kind of an interesting dog.
If anybody has cool photos of your dog post away!
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Picture of pound pup. Very loving little girl. Downside is she had parvo when she was just a pup, not to mention allergies ( grass for one) that make her hair fall out and gives her an odor similiar to a locker room or belly button, just awful at times.

Her hair looks pretty good in this pic. In fact, it looks real good relatively speaking, except maybe at the base of the tail. The skin can kind of look like and elephants skin where there are folds such as at the base of the tail. Make you think of an elephant trunk.

But look at those eyes, pure love.

Btw, normally I do not allow this one on the furniture because of her bo. When my daughter brings her, she brings her own blanket to put in the floor. She is pretty good about using it.
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Thanks for the opinions and input guys, this has been a cool thread. My kids are reading it also so thanks for keeping it clean. Lol

Emily is really enjoying the photos of your pups!

If you have a chance check out a breed called a "Briard". Kind of an interesting dog.
I meant to mention earlier, but with dogs that you can't see their eyes and mouth well (like a Briard) it's easy to miss signals that it's getting aggravated or fearful. You can't necessarily see that the whites of their eyes are starting to show more, or that they've started to squint (a really bad sign when accompanied by tense muzzle and teeth showing) or that their muzzle is tensing up, etc. People miss what's going on, keep doing something silly, and get bit. Part of the reason why a lot of those types of breeds have worse than average bite statistics.
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Nova Scotian Duck Tolling Retriever. Lots of energy. Smart. 30-40 lbs
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I have seen them at dog shows in agility contests and they routinely clean the clock of pretty much all other dogs entered.

they are so smart they learn to run the course without any mistakes or wasted motion. I see them pretty regularly where I swim my dogs and the herding drive and the barking can get annoying- but man-o-man they are smart.
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List of most breeds.

Mine are 44 and 49 respectively

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What do you guys think of those Border Collies? They seem like good dogs but they need daily running etc. They seem pretty smart.
Like other folks have said Border Collies are energetic and smart and need a job or they can get obsessive (they will create jobs for themselves) We were lucky and got one of the rare lazy BCs. She is a second dog and is uninterested in any jobs whatsoever.
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List of most breeds.

Mine are 44 and 49 respectively

http://petrix.com/dogint/intelligence.html
Don't worry, it's a trainer opinion survey

I think Akitas, for instance, are smarter than they show in that list. They can definitely learn a bunch of words (not like Border Collies, where some know the names of over 1000 toys). Some dogs are difficult for trainers because they only do what they feel like doing. If they aren't motivated by food, and don't care that much about pleasing people other than their person, most trainers will have a tough time with them. One day tell them to fetch the ball, and they're right on it, the next day they're telling you to get it yourself Really independent breeds and individual dogs are like that, and Akitas usually don't have much interest in pleasing a casual acquaintance.
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Let's just say I decide to bu a puppy from a breeder. Any advice on knowing which ones are better than others and why? I've heard horror stories over he years from people who supposedly bought AKC registered dogs but had all sorts of issues..... inbreeding perhaps?

I guess I don't know. A few miles from my home, in a town called "Hartland" Wisconsin a breeder raises English Setters. His website looks good but breeders still make me nervous. I'd like to approach this slowly and visit some dogs as well as learning etc.
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From my Avitar, you can see we have a Chocolate Lab. Dutch is probably the finest dog I've ever been around. His sole mission in life is to eat and please his family.

As a toddler, my family had a female Doberman. Great watchdog and babysitter when I was playing in the back yard. No one could get close to our fence when I was out there with her.

Growing up later, my Mom always had a Poodle. Decent dogs, good companion and fairly smart but they always seemed to prefer one family member over all others. A down side for sure, is they always had to go to the groomers.

I once had a roomate who owned a Springer Spaniel. This dog would roam away from the yard for hours on end. The privacy fence around the back yard was no match for her. I was always worried when she was gone but my rommie didn't seem to care. These dogs are natural hunters and often times the dog would bring a rabbit's head "trophy" and leave it at the front door, only to barf up the very same rabbit on the carpet an hour or so later. I was VERY glad when they moved out.
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What do you guys think of those Border Collies? They seem like good dogs but they need daily running etc. They seem pretty smart.
We had a Border Collie when i was a kid. Incredible dog, incredibly intelligent, you could basically just speak english to her, but also neurotic. We belonged to a Border Collie club and they were all a bit neurotic about different things, the males a bit less so than the females. And they need constant exercise and mental stimulation. It was 24/7 throwing the ball for her which she took as her job. If there was no one to throw the bal for her she would climb the stairs and drop the ball then go down the stairs and repeat the process all day. If your family is very active they can be a great breed but they need lots of outdoor time (as herders they cover something like 100sq miles a day) and especially a job

what i will say though is that because they aren't registered dogs they are still bred for intelligence rather than looks, so a lot of the physical problems that effect other breeds don't effect them.
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The other thing that i would suggest is to not buy a dog from "show" stock. Inbreeding is way more common in show dogs than dogs bred for their original purpose, hunting herding etc..

Duck tollers are great dogs, i would have gotten one if my wife hadn't been insistent on getting a pound dog. They are almost as smart as Border collies without the neurosies (I should have added to my last post that BC's that are real working dogs generally don't have neurosies because they don't have the time to become neurotic)

I also know you said you don't want a Lab but in my opinion they are about the best all around dog. Reasonably smart(but not overly smart like BC`s), super loyal, they don't bite (Golden retrievers are actually in the top 5 biting dogs because they are really inbred due to the long hair and the golden colour both being recessive) and are usually a bit lazy so they don't mind just hanging out but they are also always up for a long walk. Great dogs.

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