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Old 01-07-2019, 08:16 AM   #61
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E-Verify doesn't really work.

I had a young guy from Honduras work for me for a few years. I ran his SS and other info through E-Verify. They gave me the all clear.

I filed his W4 with one exemption, when he got his first paycheck he asked me what was with all the taxes taken out. Then he told me he had 5 kids. I asked what kids? He told me his kids were in California and he needed to claim 5 dependents.

This guy was 19 years old, I changed the withholding and he was happy. The name on his paycheck was not the name he was called by. He always went to the check cashing place.

At the time that ID he gave me was for a 5 year work visa. This guy is now a mini contractor doing all sorts of contract work, bathrooms, basements, etc. His 5 year visa was up about 10 years ago.

Another guy worked for one of my GC's and was injured on the job. The Insurance company wanted do do an investigation. Not for blame, but for future risk mitigation.
When the investigator came to the job site and asked the worker his date of birth, the worker said hang on I have to run out to my car for a minute......he couldn't recall the false information he was using for his work ID.

The other guys on the job told me that guy had 3 or 4 different ID's that he used.
Friend of mine owns a factory and had the same issue with checking id's his people were from India, he finally fired them all and got robots to do the same operation they were doing. Went from almost 90 employees to 6.
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:23 AM   #62
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They don't care.



https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...tlanta-address

If I make a small mistake on an IRS form or file a day late, I get a penalty. Who in the IRS would send all this money to the same address?
That's unbelievable. So wrong................
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India is a problem too and a good example of chain migration. I bet you can't find legal documents for half the employees that work at 7-Elevens.
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The sales tax or real estate tax example is a red herring... tourists from other countries who don't live here pay sales tax when here and buying things, not to mention they pay real estate taxes through proxy even when renting a hotel room... as is the case for anyone that visits any country... BUT, illegals in both those situations are getting goods and services in return... But take the real estate taxes as an example... cities have codes that disallow having more people living in a home than the home can handle (i.e. - water, sewer)... If you have 8-10 people living in a residence that is perked for 3-4, it taxes the system and they aren't paying what everyone else is...

The taxes we're talking about are city, county, state and federal, in the form of corporate or income taxes.... all that go to services illegals receive but do not pay for or pay very little for...

The government pays HUNDREDS of BILLIONS every year to cover the cost of illegal immigration... money we have to BORROW every year to cover, leading to TRILLIONS over a short 10-year period...

The bill comes due, and illegals can avoid it, unlike the citizens of the country...
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Old 01-07-2019, 10:18 AM   #65
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Is it any surprise that water reaches its own level in the construction industry? You have guys who hire illegal labor to in essence burn others who are working legitimately and with legal labor through price to get a job or increase profit, and over time, others end up joining them because they can't find guys to work hard or who have the talent for the same low wage and it becomes the new level... add to it, added regulations/insurances/etc. that legitimate companies have to work under and it puts even more price pressure to consider the illegal option...

And it's a surprise that guys don't want to enter a trade/industry or kids are discouraged to enter a field where wages are falling because of it? So it creates a vacuum that is filled by like minded people who are willing to take less because what they do get is worth MUCH more where they come from, and so you get more and more of it...

All I know is that we have politicians WE PAY FOR who are working harder to protect people who are breaking the law and making it harder for everyone than their own citizens... and it's a problem they don't want to go away otherwise it would have by now...

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I may be confused.

I canít remember if it was the video, this thread, or another talking about laborers at HD whose expected wage was $25/hr.

Pretty sure they are not asking for 1099ís.


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It was another thread about HD. The illegals here want $25.00 per hour and 8 hours of work. They may work for 6 hours, but that would be their absolute minimum. How to I know, they told me directly.
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Local media never report struggles of local contractors or landscapers as a result of immigration.
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Part of the reason is you have a growing number of people (mostly young or old hippie types) who have a lot of spare time on their hands. These people show up for the protest scenes you see on TV. The one thing that media doesn't want is to be the focus of people who's only form of communication is yelling "racist" or "nazi".
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I don't have the answers. I don't think any of us do.

One thing is for sure, we have an illegal Immigration problem. By it's very definition it's criminal activity and we need to start acknowledging that first and foremost.

Here firemen are a problem too. It's the same for all parties instead of this special class bull****. There are no sacred cows, or shouldn't be. Firemen around here are a pretty big problem moonlighting as construction owners. Not as bad as the illegals but firemen will come in and trim out your house on Tuesday/Wednesday, and be back Friday and Saturday to finish up, which is fine except a lot aren't insured and have no EIN.

I've talked to plenty that tell me they're bored so they do something on the side and it grows into a business. Uh no, your business because you see it as a side job, doesn't make it okay to not hold all the same insurances. And that happens a lot here.

Thankfully I got out of that market in 2012 but between all the "special classes" they make it extremely difficult to work in the middle class market. Let's not act as if it's just Illegal immigrants. They are definitely the head on this monster but it's got many faces.

Let's get a handle on what is legal business and what isn't. If we can't even manage our own, maybe we need to suffer a bit until we get a grip on it by not allowing any new work visas.....
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any one who compares paying sales tax to paying income tax is out of their mind , unless they buy 100 trucks a year and even then the money goes just to the state not the Feds


And you know what happens when they get hurt on the job? they sue whoever hired them and the owner of the place where they were working
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any one who compares paying sales tax to paying income tax is out of their mind , unless they buy 100 trucks a year and even then the money goes just to the state not the Feds


And you know what happens when they get hurt on the job? they sue whoever hired them and the owner of the place where they were working
Yuuuuup.

Which causes our insurances to go up, which puts us further out of competition to anyone who knows they can skirt the rules.

But what do you hear about? How some contractor tried to screw some old woman out of money. Which happens and that guy should be presented to anjury of other contractors so they can beat hell out of him. But you will never hear about how the everyday contractor is getting screwed iut of money everyday.

I couldn't imagine how tough it is where some of you guys live. We thankfully have a little bubble that once you get inside your kind of insulated from this nonsense.
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any one who compares paying sales tax to paying income tax is out of their mind
What? Maybe it's fact checked on Snopes.........they did pay a tax.........once
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any one who compares paying sales tax to paying income tax is out of their mind , unless they buy 100 trucks a year and even then the money goes just to the state not the Feds





And you know what happens when they get hurt on the job? they sue whoever hired them and the owner of the place where they were working


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With the way our legal system is I wouldn't bet on that for one minute.
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boy are you wrong, it is a civil matter not criminal.

Happens here all of the time especially with pedestrians, they walk out in traffic hoping to just get clipped by a car and then they sue the driver.

Customer had someone fall on her sidewalk, he was from Honduras he got $50k for a broken wrist and free medical care for the wrist.

A few years ago 2 guys were killed buried in a trench, both illegal, both families sued the business owner and the property owner. Both had to pay.
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I don't have the answers. I don't think any of us do.

One thing is for sure, we have an illegal Immigration problem. By it's very definition it's criminal activity and we need to start acknowledging that first and foremost.

Here firemen are a problem too. It's the same for all parties instead of this special class bull****. There are no sacred cows, or shouldn't be. Firemen around here are a pretty big problem moonlighting as construction owners. Not as bad as the illegals but firemen will come in and trim out your house on Tuesday/Wednesday, and be back Friday and Saturday to finish up, which is fine except a lot aren't insured and have no EIN.

I've talked to plenty that tell me they're bored so they do something on the side and it grows into a business. Uh no, your business because you see it as a side job, doesn't make it okay to not hold all the same insurances. And that happens a lot here.

Thankfully I got out of that market in 2012 but between all the "special classes" they make it extremely difficult to work in the middle class market. Let's not act as if it's just Illegal immigrants. They are definitely the head on this monster but it's got many faces.

Let's get a handle on what is legal business and what isn't. If we can't even manage our own, maybe we need to suffer a bit until we get a grip on it by not allowing any new work visas.....
No kidding, every fvcking fireman has a side gig here too!

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No kidding, every fvcking fireman has a side gig here too!

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My neighbors is FDNY. Does electrical and small engine repair on the side. Know a few others who own a moving business on the side.

Another on Long Island runs a nice contracting business. We are 50 min from NYC. Most fireman around here have side jobs.


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You guys look at this stuff so weird to me. If I was a fireman I would I couldn't give one **** what any of y all think in the competition. Lol. I'm off 4 days a week in gonna make more money.

Don't assume they don't have insurance unless you know. I did side work when I was younger, by the time I was 24 I was insured with general liability. I also paid my taxes.
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You guys look at this stuff so weird to me. If I was a fireman I would I couldn't give one **** what any of y all think in the competition. Lol. I'm off 4 days a week in gonna make more money.

Don't assume they don't have insurance unless you know. I did side work when I was younger, by the time I was 24 I was insured with general liability. I also paid my taxes.


Iím all for it bro. Some are legit. Some are all cash. None of my business.


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