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griz 11-10-2018 08:11 PM

California burning again...
 
The "Camp Fire" has literally destroyed the town of Paradise.

Appears to have been caused by a power line problem...

As of this afternoon 6453 homes destroyed and the fire is 20% contained.

There are also two other fires in southern Calif, sorta down in Mikes neighborhood...

TimNJ 11-10-2018 08:22 PM

Unbelievable.
Is there any area of the state, that isn't in the big cities, that hasn't burned in the last three years?


Stay safe out there and have an escape planned.

Seven-Delta-FortyOne 11-10-2018 08:44 PM

We've had multiple small fires here, but nothing too big.

Thank God.

We sometimes get pretty smoky from fires in the east, though.

Eastern county has burned a few times, but once again, small stuff. Especially compared to what else is going on.

Seven-Delta-FortyOne 11-10-2018 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by griz (Post 7406609)
The "Camp Fire" has literally destroyed the town of Paradise.

Appears to have been caused by a power line problem...

As of this afternoon 6453 homes destroyed and the fire is 20% contained.

There are also two other fires in southern Calif, sorta down in Mikes neighborhood...

Been following this pretty closely.

I was over at the Cal-Fire station on Thursday, right after it started, and the guys were telling me that they were getting ready to get sent over there.

We sent 10 Strike Teams from Humboldt to Butte.

So now we're stretched pretty thin here. :eek:

griz 11-10-2018 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven-Delta-FortyOne (Post 7406629)
Been following this pretty closely.

I was over at the Cal-Fire station on Thursday, right after it started, and the guys were telling me that they were getting ready to get sent over there.

We sent 10 Strike Teams from Humboldt to Butte.

So now we're stretched pretty thin here. :eek:

likely emptied out high rock & alder also....

TxElectrician 11-10-2018 08:52 PM

Stay safe fellas

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Peter_C 11-10-2018 09:43 PM

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I used to work in the Paradise area as it was part of my territory. Also spent a lot of time NE of there touring around the back country. Really sad to see the devastation, and the fact people died. There are some crazy videos of people escaping the fire. The roads were so packed people abandoned their vehicles and ran. Those that didn't were found dead in their vehicles. They would have been better off parked in one of the big parking lots in town. Hindsight though.

Ironically in cleaning out one of my email accounts today I found this photo of my Suburban from the past that I grabbed on my way home coming out of Paradise, in the canyon area, with Chico in the background.

griz 11-10-2018 09:50 PM

fyi...paradise is a huge retirement area.

very close to chico, a large college town w/all the modern city amenities.

lake oroville is very close & it had a huge dam issue last year or so.

WarnerConstInc. 11-10-2018 10:21 PM

California seems like a bad place to live. Dangerous

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Big Johnson 11-11-2018 07:54 AM

Yea Between earthquakes, illegals and terrorists shooting you dead and forest fires.

hdavis 11-11-2018 08:27 AM

You guys worry too much.

There are plenty of places in Cali where quakes and fires aren't a big deal.

Pretty much no matter where you live, driving and flooding are the biggest risks.

Caleb1989 11-11-2018 09:51 AM

Also incredible, this is happening in November, not July or August.

We better get some rain soon 🤞


-Caleb

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SmallTownGuy 11-11-2018 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Seven-Delta-FortyOne (Post 7406629)
Been following this pretty closely.

I was over at the Cal-Fire station on Thursday, right after it started, and the guys were telling me that they were getting ready to get sent over there.

We sent 10 Strike Teams from Humboldt to Butte.

So now we're stretched pretty thin here. :eek:

In another thread, you waxed poetic on the idyllic life in NorCal.
I voiced my reservations, thinking there might be something you were leaving out.

I believe this is it, Sir.

griz 11-11-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SmallTownGuy (Post 7407211)
In another thread, you waxed poetic on the idyllic life in NorCal.
I voiced my reservations, thinking thee might be something you were leaving out.

I believe this is it, Sir.

the nor cal fires are way east of me and 7 delta....

don't forget we are smack dab on the coast and not far from the oregon border...

7 delta is a couple of hours and i'm like 25 minutes...

hdavis 11-11-2018 05:56 PM

I don't think there are many cali contractors on here that have had any big problems with wildfires or quakes. Near as I can tell, Redwood is still in the clear.

It's terrible when it happens, but relatively few are badly effected.

Like when I lived in Texas, I'd see and drive by tornados most years. Mainly a damned nuisance. Flooding could be a real problem, though.

Peter_C 11-11-2018 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hdavis (Post 7407233)
I don't think there are many cali contractors on here that have had any big problems with wildfires or quakes. Near as I can tell, Redwood is still in the clear.

Do you mean fires from 2015 or 2017? Three years ago we had over 600 acres on our tree farm in Oregon go up in smoke, because someone was too lazy to put out their campfire. My house probably should have burned to the ground in last years fire. Our neighbors house caught fire, and I have many friends that lost their homes. I found multiple large embers in the leaves in the yard. My neighbor emptied his pool completely fighting the fire. One of the flooring suppliers lost their home. People are dying in these terrible fire storms.

hdavis 11-11-2018 10:42 PM

Sounds like you're in a fire prone area, sorry you've got hit.:thumbsup:

Peter_C 11-12-2018 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hdavis (Post 7407463)
Sounds like you're in a fire prone area, sorry you've got hit.:thumbsup:

At our house I spent 7 years worrying about fire and preparing for it. I was in the best position out of surrounding homes, and I had pushed hard for them to clear and done a lot of it for my own good, which amounted to acres of clearing/cleaning. What you see in the photo used to be bushes 6+ feet high when I first moved in and the oak trees stopped us from seeing much of the backyard as they touched the ground. I brought the fire department marshal out and did a walking tour with them to ask what I could do, and the only thing he said was instead of cutting then raking grass, take it to bare dirt.

Much of California is fire prone and most homes are not good defensible spaces. That and most homes are made of wood for earthquake resiliency. Contrary to Trumps idea of clearing the forest, with MILLIONS of acres it is impossible. The cost would be staggering. I happen to know a little about tree farming, logging, and land clearing.

We talked last night about in some areas going full prepper with an underground bunker for riding out fires :blink:

Now about those earthquakes :censored:

hdavis 11-12-2018 12:35 AM

I remember you talking about maintaining the area around your house for better fire survivability. I've also read california guidelines for building in fire prone areas. AFAIK, only a concrete and steel structure would handle both esrquakes and fire, but there could be sone tricjs for wood framing.

People who haven't lived there don't understand the situation with the wildfires. I've said it before, the only way yo stop them is terrace all the hills and turn them into rice paddies. You'll still get fires, just not as bad.

Eastern forests could theoretically be controlled burned periodically to lower fire danger, but that isn't really done. We just don't get the ridiculously liw humidity abd high winds, so it isn't such a problem.

Controlled burns out there would just turn into out of control burns.

KAP 11-13-2018 08:52 AM

Wow...
Firefighters lose homes while on front lines of Camp Fire ... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fi...D=ansmsnnews11

"At least 53 firefighters have lost their homes to a wildfire in Butte County, and that number is expected to grow.

To see the number of them that were out there fighting the fire knowing that their own homes were lost, it’s unbelievable,” Tim Aboudara with the association said.

He was just blocks away from his own home, engaged in a fire fight, well aware that his own home was probably on fire,” Aboudara said about a firefighter who visited the center. “He had to stay on mission and keep doing his job."

It’s not just firefighters who have lost their homes, but other emergency personnel, police officers and public servants. The mayor of Paradise lost her home and she said the town council, all public works’ employees and the majority of the police force lost their houses, too. "


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