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Old 09-01-2013, 10:50 AM   #321
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I think that these min wage workers have lost sight of the American dream.

To me it means that YES anyone can be successful in life but you have earn it and not by crying and whining that someone else owes you more.

I believe the American dream is still alive. It does not come to you, YOU have to seek it out.
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And after reading further in the thread, you have admitted what I thought were your intentions.

Did your employer know that you had this in mind when he hired you?

If you had been honest and told him that you need the job, but would like to know how to build a future and grow into playing a larger role with his company, you may have had a fighting chance. But when you bait and switch don't expect him to do flips when you hatch your plan and it backfires on you.

Back me into a corner and you would have been sent packing. There are hundreds of guys in my area that would take your spot in a heartbeat.
What plans were hatched??? Here's how the original "interview went"

Me- I hear your looking for a labe, what do you pay

him- any experience
me- restoration
him- new construction is different i can start you at $12 and we'll see what happens
me- You got lots of work
him-yup
me-see you tomorrow

Raise conversation
Me- Hey Richard we need to talk., I've been here a while and you've seen what i can do, I'm having a real hard time living on $12/hr, and my old boss called earlier asking if i wanted to go back, he's offering $17, I don't expect that from you but i do need something more, say $14/hr.

Him-Sorry can't do it,

me- that's too bad I guess I'm giving my 2 weeks

Him-Ok

Then he talks with the other labe who tells him he's an idiot because even though he doesn't see it I'm working harder and longer than any labe he's had in a long time and if I go he's going becuse he actually has a chance to breathe since I've been there. I didn't ask Frank to do that, he did it because he was glad to finally have someone who has humping it even when the boss wasn't watching

Him- Hey Sean,, frank tell me your doing a really good job so i guess i can give you the raise.

Me-Ok.
I didn't find out til later on that Frank had said he'd quit, and i heard that from the other bricklayer
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Do you always get this irate and call people names when they don't agree with you? I'm a thick headed #$%^ because I don't have the same view as you? That's very broad minded. I forgot to put you on the ignore list before, i guess I'll try and do that now. You have the WORST argument style of anyone else on this board.
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The job i applied for said pay based on experience. My starting rate was $12/hr, I felt like I had gained experience, really it was experience I already had he just wasn't willing to recognize it. In no way was i being deceitful or dishonest. When did working hard and asking (not DEMANDING, I have no control over him) for a raise become dishonest?
Except you DID demand it and you felt like you deserved it... here's your post...

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No but it is your problem when they quit and go to work for someone that pays them enough so they can make their payment. I had that issue when i was a labourer. I had done what I had thought was more than enough to DEMAND a raise. My boss said no, not going to happen, I threatened to quit, he said Ok and his other labourer said he'd quit too cause I was the best labe he'd had in ages even if he didn't see it. (that labe had been with him over 10 years) I COULD NOT live on the $12/hr he was paying. I had rent, utilities, food, insurance, fuel etc...that stuff adds up. The extra $2/hr I made + my expenses like WSIB and Ei and CPP would have cost him $2.60/hr or a little over $20 a day (all of which is an expense). That $16/day meant a lot to me, the $20 a day didn't make his belly get any smaller
In that response it went in the opposite direction of this post... You don't feel that the employer should have to pay to support the guy with 8 kids and the big truck, but you do think he did when it came to supporting someone's car payment earlier so they could get to work it was. These shifting life circumstances are on you, not the employer.

Once the employer has advertised a position, discussed what it pays and the job details and you accept, he has met his obligation. YOU made the decision to join under those circumstances...

He is not even obligated to give you a raise... employers give raises because they want to retain people, but look at the last 5 years... raises were NOT the norm across the country in all different industries...


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People get jobs so they can support their families, i'm not suggesting that if anyone does the bare minimum that they should be getting paid enough to get luxuries...

BUT i do not believe that food, shelter and a vehicle are luxuries (I wish a vehicle was a luxury but for the most part infrastructure everywhere but the major cities doesn't exist for folks without a vehicle).
Yes, but the type of food, shelter and vehicle can be luxuries just like walking around with an IPhone and a $75/month contract IS a luxury... as are satellite TV, Internet, filet Mignon, eating out often, not packing lunch but buying while out, $1.69 drinks at the convenience store, etc...

What comes across to me in this whole discussion is that you think you are ENTITLED to a job that meets your criteria.... you are not... only if your skills, attitude and value are a match to the employers needs is there any reason to hire someone...



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Sorry but $7/hr doesn't allow anyone to live a decent life.... I'm talking about grownups who have responsibilities.
Yes, and GROWN-UPS know that THEY are responsible for this, even if that means getting a second job to make ends meet... if you don't like $7/hour then you do what YOU did... get extra skills and INCREASE your employment value... But sorry, even a guy with a PHD isn't going to get more money at McDonald's BECAUSE that is what the POSITION pays... the rest of the PHD's skills (if not needed) are of little value to that position... they need you to flip burgers..



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Yes, the original poster was talking about burger flippers and if that's the business he's thinking of then great, but my major comment was about Robies statemnet that he wasn't responsible for an employee having adequate food or shelter and having a vehicle. My comment is that in my experience you get problem employees when you have that attitude.
You don't know a potential employee from Adam... are you saying that employers should KNOW what a potential employee NEEDS to make as opposed to offering them a position that pays a certain rate?

How does an employer even KNOW what YOU need to make before hiring you? That is up to YOU to decide if the employment and compensation meet your needs, not the employer... if they are not a match, and you take the job anyway knowing this, that is on you, not the employer...

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Its against every thing capitalism stands for to cap what one can make...
There are many principles that our country has traditionally embraced. I think everyone hear is talking about access to oppurtunity.

Dont forget the estate tax was included in the Constituion to prevent the rise of a hereditary aristocracy. And in an era where wealth has become much more concentrated at the top what is one of the items on the congressional to do list? Repeal the estate tax.

In 1750 america was a pretty wide open place, a frontier where you could carve out your own place in the world ( if you wernt a slave or indentured servant).
Today we have student loans instead of slavery. They are inescapable debt that is required to gain entry to the lowest tiers of whit collar work and a fair amount of blue collar work as well.

America today is more like a giant poker game. 99 percent of the population has 1-3 chips. 1 percent has 5000 chips. Pretty tough to win that game if youre part of the 99.

Most of the threads participants feel there is plenty of oppurtunity to be had. Of course the thread is primarily composed of self employed business owners. A skewed sample of the population.

The real question is whether raising the min wage increases opportunity or the ability to change ones socioeconomic standing. In a word, nope. Studied this in college econ. Workers see a short increase in buying power which is quickly eroded by inflation. What does happen is people on fixed incomes become poorer. Particularly ssi recipients. Raising the min wage is a great way to put a lot of elderly widows and schizophrenics on the street.

Yes the max wage idea is unamerican. Who would want to live in populist unamerican states with the best health care , education, and standard of living in the world like switzerland, denmark, or france (where the commie bastards have an average work week of 28 hours).

Personally I believe that you need the incentive on top. But when you die the chips should go back in the pot. Through estate tax this money would then be funneled back to society through public spending.
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I believe the American dream is still alive. It does not come to you, YOU have to seek it out.
As it has ALWAYS been... well said...
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Personally I believe that you need the incentive on top. But when you die the chips should go back in the pot. Through estate tax this money would then be funneled back to society through public spending.
So you worked your whole life only to have the decision taken from you of where you want it to go (i.e. - kids, charities, foundations, colleges, etc.) so the black hole of government take it all?...

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Good morning Wow 15$ per hour to flip burgers 17 pages and going strong
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Do you always get this irate and call people names when they don't agree with you? I'm a thick headed #$%^ because I don't have the same view as you? That's very broad minded. I forgot to put you on the ignore list before, i guess I'll try and do that now. You have the WORST argument style of anyone else on this board.
Your problem is that you are reading way to far into my comments. And I am far from IRATE, maybe annoyed, but not irate.

You are thick headed because you think that wages should be fixed in order to provide you with what you think is a livable lifestyle. You are thick headed because you think that the employer is responsible for giving someone something, not based on the actual job description, but based on your needs.

It has nothing to do with the way that I think, it's just the way the common sense world works.

And I take it as a compliment that I have the WORST argument style of anyone else on the board. I am not like anyone else and wouldn't conform to what you or anyone else on this board thinks I should conform to.

The fact is you accepted the job at that rate. You didn't disclose that you would need more. Once you had something to hang over his head you made your move. You leveraged the issue and lost. We also don't know the motives of this other laborer. Maybe he wants you to stay because you take up his slack? I don't know and don't care. It has nothing to do with your tactics.

The bottom line is you accepted the job at an agreed rate, tried to renegotiate and lost. Like I said, if you cannot advance under his employ GO FIND A NEW JOB. He has NO responsibility to give you more.
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But you can argue, just for the sake of arguing?
It's capitalism versus socialism. The debate was pretty good, regardless whether you liked it or not.

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It's capitalism versus socialism. The debate was pretty good, regardless whether you liked it or not.


It is all about capitalism. The whole reason for the food service industry wanting this is due to capitalism. We as consumers, wanted more for less. To get more for less, we began sourcing all of our goods from other country's. This reduced the labor force that was making enough money to support themselves and a small family. Now those people had to find a different job, just so happens lots of people go out to eat, so we needed people in the food service industry.

Just so happens, most of the FSI, does not offer a wage that was on par with the manufacturing industry.

Looks like the FSI is going to be the new manufacturing industry.
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It is all about capitalism. The whole reason for the food service industry wanting this is due to capitalism. We as consumers, wanted more for less. To get more for less, we began sourcing all of our goods from other country's. This reduced the labor force that was making enough money to support themselves and a small family. Now those people had to find a different job, just so happens lots of people go out to eat, so we needed people in the food service industry.

Just so happens, most of the FSI, does not offer a wage that was on par with the manufacturing industry.

Looks like the FSI is going to be the new manufacturing industry.
If all the manufacturing for consumer goods was done in this country, the prices would be driven up to the point where those doing the manufacturing couldn't afford them either. It's the same thing.
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It is all about capitalism. The whole reason for the food service industry wanting this is due to capitalism. We as consumers, wanted more for less. To get more for less, we began sourcing all of our goods from other country's. This reduced the labor force that was making enough money to support themselves and a small family. Now those people had to find a different job, just so happens lots of people go out to eat, so we needed people in the food service industry.

Just so happens, most of the FSI, does not offer a wage that was on par with the manufacturing industry.

Looks like the FSI is going to be the new manufacturing industry.
Actually it's a long history of regulation that forced companies to seek less expensive sources of materials and goods, not consumer demand.

Then calculate the cost of unions and you have industry fleeing the US.

Also, Manufacturing is a skilled industry, FSI is not. And any skilled job in FSI pays pretty well (Management).
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If all the manufacturing for consumer goods was done in this country, the prices would be driven up to the point where those doing the manufacturing couldn't afford them either. It's the same thing.


Not necessarily, there are plenty of items still made here that are quite affordable even compared to their import knock-off's.

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Actually it's a long history of regulation that forced companies to seek less expensive sources of materials and goods, not consumer demand.

Then calculate the cost of unions and you have industry fleeing the US.

Also, Manufacturing is a skilled industry, FSI is not. And any skilled job in FSI pays pretty well (Management).


Bull crap, pushing buttons on a machine that makes x part of the widget is not a real skilled position.
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Bull crap, pushing buttons on a machine that makes x part of the widget is not a real skilled position.
It is if the union says it is....

Just ask the SEIU about the skill level of a burger-maker.
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Except you DID demand it and you felt like you deserved it... here's your post...
Sorry bad choice of words, (but not really if you read them) My WORK demanded a raise, I felt like deserved a raise. We were working with another bricklayer that was paying his labe the same as me and I out worked him each day every day.

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In that response it went in the opposite direction of this post... You don't feel that the employer should have to pay to support the guy with 8 kids and the big truck, but you do think he did when it came to supporting someone's car payment earlier so they could get to work it was. These shifting life circumstances are on you, not the employer.
what i feel is the even the most menial jobs should support someone, it doesn't need to support their crack habit or their love monster trucks but it needs to support them...further if you hire an adult (regardless of their position in life)you need to paynthe adult wages. I DON"T think thos should be legislated, I DO think this should be something that employers (and I am one, have had maybe a dozen employees, some kids some 10 years older than me and i did not give them all the same wage even though they all did the same work) should do so they attract folks that aren't selling dope to make ends meet, or doing the occasional B& E or more innocently, not paying their insurance or parking/speeding tickets or maybe doing an occasional gas and dash


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Once the employer has advertised a position, discussed what it pays and the job details and you accept, he has met his obligation. YOU made the decision to join under those circumstances...

He is not even obligated to give you a raise... employers give raises because they want to retain people, but look at the last 5 years... raises were NOT the norm across the country in all different industries...
No and i don;t think he/she SHOULD be LEGALLY obligated to do so. being morally obligated is different. See my comment about holding doors open




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Yes, but the type of food, shelter and vehicle can be luxuries just like walking around with an IPhone and a $75/month contract IS a luxury... as are satellite TV, Internet, filet Mignon, eating out often, not packing lunch but buying while out, $1.69 drinks at the convenience store, etc...

What comes across to me in this whole discussion is that you think you are ENTITLED to a job that meets your criteria.... you are not... only if your skills, attitude and value are a match to the employers needs is there any reason to hire someone...
Agreed, but i have no interest in policing my employees. hoever, if i have given someone an opprtunity and seen that they would rather spend their money on junk rather than getting their life together, i have also seen that that is not an employee that i want to keep. if they can't help themselves to prosper they sure aren't going to help me to keep my business going and prospering


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Yes, and GROWN-UPS know that THEY are responsible for this, even if that means getting a second job to make ends meet... if you don't like $7/hour then you do what YOU did... get extra skills and INCREASE your employment value... But sorry, even a guy with a PHD isn't going to get more money at McDonald's BECAUSE that is what the POSITION pays... the rest of the PHD's skills (if not needed) are of little value to that position... they need you to flip burgers..
Ever hear of someone that is overqualified for a job...same idea

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You don't know a potential employee from Adam... are you saying that employers should KNOW what a potential employee NEEDS to make as opposed to offering them a position that pays a certain rate?

How does an employer even KNOW what YOU need to make before hiring you? That is up to YOU to decide if the employment and compensation meet your needs, not the employer... if they are not a match, and you take the job anyway knowing this, that is on you, not the employer...
If you don't interview you employees before you hire them, that's your fault, i do mine. I know if they live at home, if they have kids, if they have a reliable vehicle, if they have an alarm clock etc....(at least those are a few of the questions i ask and I'm pretty good at seeing deceit). i

I am not an employee, i am an employer and i take that pretty seriously. Like i said before. it's been over a decade since i worked for anyone else, and i've had employees off and on for the last 7 years. I have always and will always make sure that their basic needs are met. If i take care of them, they take care of me...basic employee employer relationship. respect back and forth, which includes pay
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Bull crap, pushing buttons on a machine that makes x part of the widget is not a real skilled position.
I guess if you want to be ignorant and classify all manufacturing like that sure. But I guess when you don't know what you are talking about, you can just say anything.
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Agreed, but i have no interest in policing my employees. hoever, if i have given someone an opprtunity and seen that they would rather spend their money on junk rather than getting their life together, i have also seen that that is not an employee that i want to keep. if they can't help themselves to prosper they sure aren't going to help me to keep my business going and prospering
It's really none of your business as long as they are performing the way you anticipated they would when you hired them. Now you want to get involved with what they are spending their money on in order to make future decisions on pay and longevity with the company?

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