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Old 11-19-2006, 11:05 PM   #1
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Priming Over Wallpaper?


I keep hearing that you should use a oil based primer over wallpaper cause water base could rewet the glue and cause it wrinkle or lose adhesion.

Is this true?





Also wouldn't a shellac based primer do better since the denatured alcohol evaporate faster than oil or water?
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Old 11-20-2006, 12:09 AM   #2
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I just plain wouldn't prime over it at all.

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Just remove the paper

http://www.wallpaperinstaller.com/wa...stripping.html
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I keep hearing that you should use a oil based primer over wallpaper cause water base could rewet the glue and cause it wrinkle or lose adhesion.

Is this true?





Also wouldn't a shellac based primer do better since the denatured alcohol evaporate faster than oil or water?
My painters have primed over paper for years with no ill effect. Of course we try to remove but if it becomes ridiculous we will prime ,float ,prime,texture and paint.
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My painters have primed over paper for years with no ill effect. Of course we try to remove but if it becomes ridiculous we will prime ,float ,prime,texture and paint.
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But what kind of primer did they use? Water? Oil?

Stripping just seems like it would be such a pain.
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I've only painted over wallpaper once, as they insisted, and it bubbled up bad when I checked back on it. Was with latex primer.

Removing wallpaper isn't all that bad. Never did much of it until the past 6 months. It's as simple as soaking it & scraping off.
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I've had good success using one of those hand held rollers that puts little holes in the wallpaper then I spray warm soapy water on it. Sometimes just the warm soapy water will do the trick
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But what kind of primer did they use? Water? Oil?

Stripping just seems like it would be such a pain.
Always been oil. Sometimes you just do more damned damage removing the paper.
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if paper is a pain to get off

why not texture over and paint

theres a pic of some stucco we did over bath wallpaper in our gallery on our website: http://www.cupantileandpaint.com/gallery.html
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I'm not one that's down with priming or painting over wallpaper at all. Removal is the key.
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Painting over wallpaper decreases the house's value..
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not if they don't know
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Remove it if possible, other wise, oil primer is safe, I have herd good things about a product called guards, i think its a clear coat, water clean up.

again always try to strip it first, best way to go imo
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Whatever you do, eventually the paper will let go at seams or bubble. THEN try and get it off!

Stripping paper isn't that big of a deal. Do the job right the first time.
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Remove it if possible, other wise, oil primer is safe, I have herd good things about a product called guards, i think its a clear coat, water clean up.

again always try to strip it first, best way to go imo
the product is gardz, is from zinsser, is very good, once yo remove the wallpaper, sand the walls properly, put one coat of gardz, and paint, and no bubles problems for the glue, no pain removing the glue, even if you have to skim coat, you can do the same, i did it several times and worked great
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Zinsser do a latex wallboard and wall paper primer.Does a great job and easy clean up.
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I have used Guardz it is awesome I steamed wallpaper off just didn't really want to do it again stumbled on this thread. It works use Guardz then use joint compound to float the sheetrock then sand primer and continue. I can upload pictures 40 year old wallpaper does not leave drywall looking good no matter what you do.
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IMO, just priming and painting over wallpaper always looks bad. Yes, there is some added risk of bubbling / peeling if you use a water based primer.

Sometimes I'll run into an old house with plaster walls and the wall paper was not put on with wallpaper paste. You can score it and soak it and scrape it for 2 days in one room and just end up with a mess. In that case it gets Kilz original and skimmed before painting.
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Gaurds Rules. I use it all the time to repair drywall after I removed old backsplash to prep for new tile. It works great.

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