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Old 05-11-2015, 04:22 PM   #1
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Are you guys installing towel bars and robe hooks in your new bathrooms or do you leave them for the homeowner?

I hate these stupid I things. It's always cheap junk with tiny wrenches you can't hold. Homeowner wants it here. No, there. No, 2 inches up. No, just 1 inch. Nah, maybe 2 inches. What about over here?

I'm going home, call me when you decide!

I usually decline the honor but I let myself get talked into it this time. Never again.
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Old 05-11-2015, 04:29 PM   #2
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A couple suggestions.

Line item the install of that stuff (eg. $400-500), and let them know it's optional and ok if they do it themselves....but tell them to be careful they don't screw up!

Use your blue tape to mark the placement while they are there. I always mark the top of the thing, or top/left corner.

Don't use the garbage wall fasteners that come with the things.

Edit: take that figure with a grain of salt, but I'm not off by much. those things can drive me nuts, too.

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It's a PITA but part of doing a bathroom project.

Just figure accordingly on the next one and you will have no problem smiling and saying yes maam. ok maam. Not a problem maam. I will sit here all day maam...

FYI I blue tape the areas out ahead of their involvement for the different items so at least they have a target to focus on instead of them looking at a complete blank slate and almost hear their inner voice trying to talk them through what they saw on HGTV.

Have the items unboxed and I Vanna White em for the homeowner. Once they say there, I mark it with a pencil and move onto the next item.

I do refuse to install robe hooks into the back of hollow core doors though.
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I always install those on y bath wrap ups. I put it in the contract that I will install it if they buy it.
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I think my biggest complaint is the included Allen wrench that is so small you can hardly tell whether or not it's even in your hand. And the set screw is 3/32 from the wall.

Then, when I finally bottom out the set screw the hook still rattles on its mount.

I prefer a decorative fastener to the hidden set screw system.
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I always install those on y bath wrap ups. I put it in the contract that I will install it if they buy it.

I'd like to do the opposite. I'll install them if you pick from this list of contractor approved hooks and bars that can be installed without inducing an aneurism.

I did one bathroom that got locally hand-forged bars and hooks. Exposed decorative flat-head screws right into the framing. What a dream.
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We always install them, some brands are easier than others. The Kohler stuff is pretty nice to install, the set screw is an inch or so from the wall so the key is able to do complete rotations. For robe hooks in hollow core doors I use 1/8" toggle bolts and they seem to hold up to basic robe and towel use.

I usually let the customer know the night before I'll be installing them, give them a general idea where I think they should go, and leave them with a roll of blue tape to mark the locations. It gives them a chance to discuss with the hubby/wifey and mull it over for a bit without wasting any of my time.

I'll take installing basic accessories in drywall over installing grab bars in tile showers any day of the week. Some of the new tiles can take 10-15 minutes per hole even with the nice diamond core bits. Just did a walk in shower for an older couple who wanted 4 grab bars. Of course this was decided after it was all done, so no blocking. The tile was made of undrillabletanium.......I didn't think I was ever gonna finish!
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I do it every time. I carry stronger anchors in my screw organizer. I've put so many on I'm done in 15 minutes
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I install the accessories, have a 3' level I put all the center marks on. Mark level and centers easily. The small allen key does not bother me, keep a set of jewelers screwdrivers in the trim box.

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The way I see it's part of our job otherwise we're not professionals. Learn how to install them efficiently.
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On bath remodels, it's in my scope on the contract to install up to X# of customer provided accessories.

They point and I put them there.

These are the easy things to do, but NO relocating and I tell them that as they are pointing.
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I would give away the install for free before I ever let the customer install visible finished accessories in my reno. These are the things that Joe Shmo neighbor and their friends notice when they come to see the new bath. If the towel bars are crooked and half falling off, it puts a bad face on the entire project. Same with paint.
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I have a company who installs shelving, mirrors, shower door and all the bathroom accessories.
They come in measure, everything is precut when installer comes, and a few hours the whole house is done.
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I would give away the install for free before I ever let the customer install visible finished accessories in my reno. These are the things that Joe Shmo neighbor and their friends notice when they come to see the new bath. If the towel bars are crooked and half falling off, it puts a bad face on the entire project. Same with paint.

My thoughts exactly...or even worse...they blow out some drywall or plaster and you gotta go back and patch and paint.

My work is my advertising......wouldn't want to put a picture of some other guys ass on my billboard.

I always have extra hrs. in my punchlist item to account for this work.

I've also told clients to go back and try again....."you don't want this junk in your nice bathroom"


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Heated towel bars------you know where they're going before the finish stage.

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Agreed. If it becomes necessary, I just like to remind folks that there's a reason it costs money...because there's a skill to it and it's easy to screw up. For the suddenly budget-conscious folks, ask them if they want their TP holder to come loose in a couple months. Gets 'em every time.

Same goes for curtain rods.
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I always install them, dont want the ho messing up my work. The locations are determined when the BR is gutted so I can put in some blocking, wall anchors suck.
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Always do it. You don't want to give them something to complain about at the very end of the project. Lots of good suggestions here.

Buy some ball end allen wrenches.
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Always do it. You don't want to give them something to complain about at the very end of the project. Lots of good suggestions here.

Buy some ball end allen wrenches.
I didn't even know about those ball-end allen wrenches until I picked up a set for a buck at a yard sale.

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