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Old 02-11-2015, 05:07 PM   #1
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so I only have to drill into the grout and adjust the bar to a 30 degree angle?

If necessary, if I miss the studs I'll put in a plywood block in back of the drywall even if I have to cut a hole in the outside wall siding & sheathing.

Or should I look for tile drilling bits and spare tile squares? I'm pretty gunshy drilling tile. Maybe use a proper bit with a router and very slowly make the holes?
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You can use these to mount the bars without hitting studs. I used them on an old tile wall that was about 1.25 thick. You can hang on these bars all day long.

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You can use these to mount the bars without hitting studs. I used them on an old tile wall that was about 1.25 thick. You can hang on these bars all day long.

http://www.wingits.com//products.php?id=2
Yeah assuming the tile is properly installed and secure, they work fine, I've used similar anchors from Moen. I usually try and grab one stud if at all possible.
Drilling tile is usually fairly easy, unless it's really hard porcelain, in which case it just takes a little more effort and care.
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Thanks, folks. . .at least now I have some options.
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they had some pretty fancy tile drilling bits on there videos. the ones I get are not very good
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they had some pretty fancy tile drilling bits on there videos. the ones I get are not very good
I used a diamond hole saw last time. It's easy to fracture tile with those large arrowhead tips.
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I guess I should find the tile box and see if these things are porcelain. And a holesaw seems the way to go, I just have masonry bits.
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I used a diamond hole saw last time. It's easy to fracture tile with those large arrowhead tips.
Whew. I have a shower door to install this week and I bought a 1/4" diamond hole saw instead of the arrow tip. Feeling reassured now.
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Whew. I have a shower door to install this week and I bought a 1/4" diamond hole saw instead of the arrow tip. Feeling reassured now.
We just did a shower door on Friday and bought a Milwaukee 5/16 diamond bit. I was surprised how easily it drilled through porcelain tile.
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We just did a shower door on Friday and bought a Milwaukee 5/16 diamond bit. I was surprised how easily it drilled through porcelain tile.
With a flat bottom
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accesso...ing/49-56-0503
how do you keep it from walking off your mark?
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how do you keep it from walking off your mark?

Yes that is the one but in 5/16". you start to by holding it at like a 45 degree angle. hold your hands tight as you can on the wall and drill. I kind of guided it with my finger resting on the bit and the wall. I also started it with the drill on low speed. make sure you keep the bit wet so it stays cool.
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how do you keep it from walking off your mark?


Put a couple layers of painters tape where you want to drill your hole, and start the bit slightly angled rather that 90 deg perpendicular to the wall.

If I don't have an assistant, I usually duct tape a small plastic water or soda bottle filled with water right above where I'm drilling the hole, and I have a tiny hole in the bottle so it slowly puts water on the bit.
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You need a starter bit for accuracy you nimits
Is that even a word
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You need a starter bit for accuracy you nimits
Is that even a word
I haven't needed a starter it.
The larger hole saws have a pilot bit.
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I haven't needed a starter it.
The larger hole saws have a pilot bit.
I assumed no pilot,...carry on.
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I assumed no pilot,...carry on.
My old math teacher use to say never assume, because when you assume, you make an ass out of u and me...
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These work good too if you have solid backing

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When cutting with any of those diamond bits you use your fingers(thumb and pointer) as a guide. Be sure your fingers are and stay wet.
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Thanks, folks. . .
I'll look up ADA guidelines on placement and get on this one.
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I use zip toggles or wingits, a little painters tape and its good to go. You can easily achieve 200 psf of better.

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