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Old 02-22-2012, 10:23 AM   #1
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I went out to see a job I bid on today, and all the interior doors were metal jamb. No nails are visible or even screws. It does not look like the standard steel doors I'm used to installing in multi family units. Anyone have any experience with such a door as this? For easy removal. The labourer said he spent 4 hours removing one door with his sawzall? Hmm.

Any thoughts or advice to make these 10 doors come out easy? Am I missing something.

Could be a nailed flange and boarded over the flange?
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Old 02-22-2012, 10:26 AM   #2
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Sounds like a welded frame to me. They are installed during the framing process. The drywall slides into the frame and conceals the installation clips.

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Really? So in other words. Hire a labourer to do this?
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Really? So in other words. Hire a labourer to do this?
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A good sawzall blade will do the trick if you cut around the perimeter. The biatch is getting the feet that are anchored into the slab out. They are usually shot pinned down, lead anchored or tapcon into the concrete.

But yes, hire a laborer
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Welded frame for sure.
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What was the thought process behind this method? It seems to be more work than anything else. Thanks for the help guys. 12 bucks and hour and a happy worker. Excellent. Lol
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No screws to hide or break or take out. They are strapped to the wall frame. Pain in the arz to remove.
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It went well. What a bitch to get the doors out. You are right about that. I sure as hell hope they have stopped manufacturing those doors and that the installation has ceased completely.
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I went out to see a job I bid on today, and all the interior doors were metal jamb. No nails are visible or even screws. It does not look like the standard steel doors I'm used to installing in multi family units. Anyone have any experience with such a door as this? For easy removal. The labourer said he spent 4 hours removing one door with his sawzall? Hmm.

Any thoughts or advice to make these 10 doors come out easy? Am I missing something.

Could be a nailed flange and boarded over the flange?
12 an hour x 4 hours for your laborer to remove one welded frame that make sense
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It went well. What a bitch to get the doors out. You are right about that. I sure as hell hope they have stopped manufacturing those doors and that the installation has ceased completely.
Lmao seriously yes welded frames are no more
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Commercial Job?
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It went well. What a bitch to get the doors out. You are right about that. I sure as hell hope they have stopped manufacturing those doors and that the installation has ceased completely.
We just got done hanging 33 doors on those frames. We hung the frames also. Yes........yes they do suck. We hate them!
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wow dont even get me started on hollow metal doors! been there done that. believe I feel your pain.
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We use welded frames or knock down frames all the time. When you install them you will pick up how easy there are to install or take out in demo in my opinion.
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sawzall and rip hammer, cut em out in 5mins flat....i'm not a laborer though...Although i do seem to labor very much.
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Did a major truck stop remodel. The walls were all plastered cmu, 2#5/8 rebar in every other cavity horizontal and vertical, solid filled. The welded steel door frames were pinned to the block, pinned to the floor, and the hollow frame was filled with concrete.
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those doors suck to remove.
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Great. So I just signed on for a TI that includes pulling half dozen of these doors out. Saving for reinstallation. Any good tips to make this go as smooth as possible? Thanks.
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Great. So I just signed on for a TI that includes pulling half dozen of these doors out. Saving for reinstallation. Any good tips to make this go as smooth as possible? Thanks.
Saving the frames will require removing the wall finish on the sides to find the attaching points for the hardware. These are clips that can be located in different positions. You will need to remove framing from one side at least and possibly part of the header. Saving the door frames is likely to be more expensive than replacing them.

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