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Old 09-10-2020, 09:37 AM   #1
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Framing On The Flat


Got called in to look at tiling tub walls,I don't know if anything that can go over 2x4s on the flat, do any of you?

2 short walls are framed regular, the 5' wall was done on the flat for who knows why (bigger tub maybe?)

Thought I had a pic, but I can't find it

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Old 09-10-2020, 01:38 PM   #2
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IMO, those walls move too easily. When I frame on the flat, I go 12" OC and they still move too easily.

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I've been using the laminated studs for shower walls. I think they would work ok on the flat, they're definitely stiffer than a 2x3.
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Yeah, there was a lot of flex in the wall and I told them there was no way I could tile it as is.

Pretty sure they just had a fiberglass surround before, they were looking to do something nicer

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1/8" or 1/4" x 1 1/2" steel on the side of each? Screwed ever 12" maybe? Just thinking outside the box if you're down to the studs anyways.
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1/8" or 1/4" x 1 1/2" steel on the side of each? Screwed ever 12" maybe? Just thinking outside the box if you're down to the studs anyways.
A length of CS 14 down both sides will make em stiff
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Just tack on a fee for remedial framing to bring it up to snuff.
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Just tack on a fee for remedial framing to bring it up to snuff.
I'm guessing there isn't room to do that
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I just finish tiling a basement shower yesterday with the long wall having framing on the flat. 82" tall. No tub. Just a lot of tight blocking, all screwed. I felt confident about the install, but I will give the wall a push while holding a straight edge against it when I am back there Monday.

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Two staggered layers of 1/2" Hardie tile backer board, glued and screwed, would absolutely stiffen that up, and give you your base for the tile. Can you spare an inch of space?

Ram some tapcons through the framing into the concrete first.
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Thanks for the input all!

The fun of it is, the homeowner started this months ago. Tub is already in place, so I've got to work around that

I've got a couple ideas to maybe test out and see how it'll go. The cs14 made me think of angle iron. I usually use kerdi board, but maybe 5/8 xp in that wall with kerdi over it would be the better bet.

Might all become a moot point after I give them the price anyway

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